2 Seven Samurai

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#201 Post by manicsounds » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:32 am

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#202 Post by Michael Kerpan » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:14 pm

This BRD does indeed look wonderful -- but my Samsung had a number of burps (skips?) -- even including some during the intermission music.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#203 Post by D50 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:53 pm

looks like a bank or post office?
manicsounds wrote:Image

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#204 Post by kinjitsu » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:05 pm

Michael Kerpan wrote:This BRD does indeed look wonderful -- but my Samsung had a number of burps (skips?) -- even including some during the intermission music.
Indeed it does, but had no problems on my old Samsung BD-P1500 or the BD-C6900.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#205 Post by manicsounds » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:20 pm

D50 wrote:looks like a bank or post office?
It's at the National Film Center, around the corner from my workplace

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#206 Post by Michael Kerpan » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:16 am

kinjitsu wrote:Indeed it does, but had no problems on my old Samsung BD-P1500 or the BD-C6900.
Strange -- I have the BD-P1600 -- which did seem to have intermittent (little) glitches.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#207 Post by aox » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:33 pm

Does any one prefer the Japanese: LPCM Mono vs. Japanese: LPCM 2.0 with a strong opinion either way? While I know the 1.0 track is original, are there any strong arguments against the 2.0 besides originalism? Does the 2.0 fill the room and offer more depth?

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#208 Post by manicsounds » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:27 am

The surround track is fuller, there are some enhanced sound effects, like the arrows and such that were muffled or barely existant in the original mono track. The newer surround track doesn't sound as artificial or out of place as other 'remix' tracks, the enhancements are good.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#209 Post by giovannii84 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:37 am

Out of curiosity, which of the 4 trailers on the reissue DVD is the "original US theatrical trailer" included on the original DVD release?

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#210 Post by Yaanu » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:33 pm

By the way, here's the restoration demonstration from the original DVD. I ripped it a few days ago and forgot to tell people.


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2 Seven Samurai

#212 Post by Matt » Thu May 09, 2024 11:56 pm

The aforementioned English dubbed version has been uploaded to the Internet Archive.
The long buried English dub of Seven Samurai, thought to be made for Walter Reade-Sterling's 1963 TV package "Cinema 70". Based on Akira Kurosawa's export cut made in 1954, originally shown with subtitles at the Venice Film Festival that year. Dubbing appears to be based on the subtitles from Columbia Pictures' 1956 subtitled U.S. theatrical release.
It appears to be taken from a 1988 Australian VHS release.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#213 Post by midnitedave » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:53 pm

4K UHD Upgrade in November
4K UHD + BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES
New 4K digital restoration, with the original uncompressed monaural soundtrack and an optional 2.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack
One 4K UHD disc of the film (in the aspect ratio of 1.37:1) and two Blu-rays with the film (in the aspect ratio of 1.33:1) and special features
Two audio commentaries, one featuring film scholars David Desser, Joan Mellen, Stephen Prince, Tony Rayns, and Donald Richie, and the other Japanese-film expert Michael Jeck
Making-of documentary, created as part of the Toho Masterworks series Akira Kurosawa: It Is Wonderful to Create
My Life in Cinema (1993), a two-hour conversation between director Akira Kurosawa and filmmaker Nagisa Oshima
“Seven Samurai”: Origins and Influences, a documentary looking at the samurai traditions and films that helped shape Kurosawa’s masterpiece
Trailers and teaser
Gallery of rare posters, behind-the-scenes photos, and production stills
PLUS: Essays by Kenneth Turan, Peter Cowie, Philip Kemp, Peggy Chiao, Alain Silver, Stuart Galbraith IV, Arthur Penn, and Sidney Lumet, and an interview with actor Toshiro Mifune from 1993

Cover by Neil Kellerhouse

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#214 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:04 pm

So should we assume Criterion's 4K does not have DV by its omission, while BFI's does?

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#215 Post by dwk » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:12 pm

Toho didn't do this (or Godzilla) in HDR.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#216 Post by Boosmahn » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:30 pm

Another restoration locked behind 4K compatibility. Wonderful.

BFI is releasing it on Blu-ray, at least.
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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#217 Post by Finch » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:31 pm

Why is the film in 1.37 on the 4K but 1.33 on the Blu-Rays?

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#218 Post by Boosmahn » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:33 pm

I assume they're reusing the old Blu-rays that use that ratio?

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#219 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:43 pm

dwk wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:12 pm
Toho didn't do this (or Godzilla) in HDR.
Apparently the Toho release is SDR in a HDR container, so that is probably what's going to happen on this release.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#220 Post by ryannichols7 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:48 pm

Finch wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:31 pm
Why is the film in 1.37 on the 4K but 1.33 on the Blu-Rays?
that's what I'm wondering, and is the BFI gonna be the same? they should be identical aside from the Dolby Vision the BFI says is on there, even though we know Toho didn't do any of the Kurosawa's with HDR. I'm curious to see

while I'm glad it's here, I think it's safe to keep the Criterion BD for the extras and get the new BFI 4K, but if there are gonna be differences, I guess we have time to wait and see what they are

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#221 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:18 pm

Maybe I haven't been following this correctly, but are people saying that BFI's specs might be incorrect regarding the DV on the 4K?

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#222 Post by dwk » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:38 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:18 pm
Maybe I haven't been following this correctly, but are people saying that BFI's specs might be incorrect regarding the DV on the 4K?
No, that, like they did with The Seventh Seal, BFI is doing an HDR grade on a SDR restoration/master.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#223 Post by therewillbeblus » Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:00 am

dwk wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:38 pm
therewillbeblus wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:18 pm
Maybe I haven't been following this correctly, but are people saying that BFI's specs might be incorrect regarding the DV on the 4K?
No, that, like they did with The Seventh Seal, BFI is doing an HDR grade on a SDR restoration/master.
I don't fully understand, but that's on me.

Looks like even though BFI's The Seventh Seal was in a DV container (as this ostensibly will be?) it's still tied (or non-preferred) to the Criterion's SDR transfer in our UHD thread. How does that happen, when it's not just in HDR but DV? Does it come down to the materials just not being up to snuff, and so comparably the PQ doesn't matter?

I'd like to jump on the BFI given the specs difference, but this is giving me pause

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#224 Post by dwk » Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:55 am

I'm not sure how much, if any, noticable difference there is between presenting SDR material in SDR vs. a presenting SDR material with a restrained HDR (I'm certain that BFI isn't going to do something offensive with the HDR grade.)
Someone here with a better grasp on the technology will probably chime in.

I just think Criterion's philosophy is clear at this point, they will present HDR except if the filmmaker's request no HDR or when the restoration was in SDR.

As for why ths was done in SDR, I think it comes down to less about the materials, although that may play a part, and more to do with Toho's belief that they shouldn't use HDR on older films.

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Re: 2 Seven Samurai

#225 Post by hearthesilence » Fri Aug 16, 2024 5:19 am

Given the issue I've had with scratched UHD's from Criterion, I'm fine holding on to their original BD release (which is likely duplicated here anyway given their standard practice) and getting the BFI UHD in addition to it if it turns out to be marginally better in terms of picture and/or audio quality.

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