1058 The Irishman

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Re: The Irishman (Martin Scorsese, 2019)

#201 Post by bearcuborg » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:10 am

This trailer was pretty underwhelming compared to the atmospheric teaser released earlier this year. However, the CGI in context of the story is becoming a bit more acceptable.
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#202 Post by ford » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:07 am

bearcuborg wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:10 am
This trailer was pretty underwhelming compared to the atmospheric teaser released earlier this year.
Agreed. The first one had that great music and the almost occult shot of the rings. This new one looks like someone said “make it look more Goodfellas-y.”

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#203 Post by Fiery Angel » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:27 am

The NYFF press screening ends in another hour. We should start getting responses soon after.

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#204 Post by TwoTecs » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:23 pm

Very positive reactions so far: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5

Also looks like Scorsese is using I HEARD YOU PAINT HOUSES as the title (which he has mentioned as his preference in past interviews):

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#205 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:25 pm

an A+ example of a late period director saying, “oh, this is what you want?” and stabbing you in the fucking neck with it
That is not only hilarious, but is raising my expectations to an insane degree.

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#206 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:14 pm

Friendly reminder that we have URL code here that you can (should?) use instead of posting a long series of links like a spambot!

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#207 Post by TwoTecs » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:35 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:14 pm
Friendly reminder that we have URL code here that you can (should?) use instead of posting a long series of links like a spambot!
Sorry, I was posting from my phone while at work.

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#208 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:52 pm

I edited your post to add URL code from my phone while at work, too!

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#209 Post by Black Hat » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:57 pm

It's not reinventing the wheel or anything, but it's a lot of fun, full of Marty fan service and exposes a bit more of a soul than his last few features.

edit: I forgot about The Silence, that one was full of spirit.


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#211 Post by Ribs » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:48 pm

Pacino is just tremendous here - a big, loud performance as usual but brimming with life contrasted with the creeping inevitability we know will befall Hoffa (the approximate circumstances of which is likely abundantly clear from the word go to pretty much anyone watching the movie) and the center of the film that drives the entire reason it works. The film as a whole is kind of chilling - it meanders here and there for a good chunk of time and he is invoked but as soon as Hoffa actually appears quite a ways in it instantly becomes his movie, and Scorsese expertly manages this transition as the real shape of what this story is and why it needed to be told begins to take hold. As the characters grow into very old age I felt it to wobble a bit but as it came to its very end it all locked into place. I am wary to just heap praise because I do think it sags at the beginning and end but based on my feelings about it developing intensely just in the past six hours or so I think the movie is at least mildly monumental as a bold reclamation of the capital-M Movie in a way that considerably eclipses Tarantino’s actually very similar entry from the past few months.

I actually think the movie has a LOT of overlap in its subject matter and what it’s like, actually, about with Once Upon a Time in America. Which seems kind of obvious and inevitable in retrospect but didn’t cross my mind until afterwards.


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Re: The Irishman (Martin Scorsese, 2019)

#213 Post by TwoTecs » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:50 pm

Richard Brody: Martin Scorsese’s Colossal, Mournful “The Irishman”

Brody addressing why the de-aging was essential to the film's artistry:
Scorsese’s de-aging of the actors is more than a stunt; it’s the movie’s moral spine. Time, generations, and age are central to “The Irishman”; it’s the story of its characters but also the story of an era, and it’s crucial to the movie’s affect that its protagonists are played by people who were formed by those times, both culturally and unconsciously. These actors aren’t merely powerful and subtle (the Academy will have its hands full with De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci), or at the very summit of their talent; they are incarnations of the past.


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#215 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:09 pm

This is very good stuff, thanks for sharing!

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#216 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:28 pm

Are there any spoilers?

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#217 Post by Roger Ryan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:34 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:28 pm
Are there any spoilers?
No spoilers for The Irishman (apart from CGI "de-aging" being used), but they giveaway some stuff from older films like Taxi Driver.

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#218 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:38 pm

I was thinking more on QT's end, but thank you

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#219 Post by Roger Ryan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:43 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:38 pm
I was thinking more on QT's end, but thank you
Okay, he discusses one moment in ...Hollywood, that could be considered spoiler-ish, that happens toward the middle of the film; you can read the conversation and skip the paragraph where Tarantino starts talking about frame rates.

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#220 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:45 pm

cool, thank you again

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#221 Post by Persona » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:17 pm

GDT has a wonderful thread about The Irishman on Twitter.



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Re: The Irishman (Martin Scorsese, 2019)

#224 Post by TwoTecs » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:16 pm

Preview of the Sight and Sound interview that Indiewire summarized.

An important bit:
One of the key things was, I didn’t want to make a film dealing with this subject-matter, and this character – and where we were taking him, to the very end – and have half the film working with younger actors that were supposed to be Bob, supposed to be Joe, and supposed to be Al. I just didn’t.

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