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Re: Awards Season 2018

#776 Post by dda1996a » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:03 pm

Because LotR at the time wasn't part of a franchise, and it was a risky literary adaptation. I can't really consider it a "blockbusters", but also generally j don't think a summer blockbuster should win BP (unless it's a Spielberg level of wuality like Raiders, which doesn't exist anymore really)

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#777 Post by Brian C » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:11 pm

dda1996a wrote:Because LotR at the time wasn't part of a franchise, and it was a risky literary adaptation. I can't really consider it a "blockbusters", but also generally j don't think a summer blockbuster should win BP (unless it's a Spielberg level of wuality like Raiders, which doesn't exist anymore really)
That’s not really true about LotR, but it especially was no longer true by the time Return won Best Pic as the third release in a hugely successful series.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#778 Post by knives » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:42 pm

Yeah, none of that comment makes sense. Blockbusters are designed as films that sellout at the boxoffice which LotR did, the third entry of a series is ipsofacto part of a franchise (in addition to the fact that it is adapted from a reasonably popular series of books that had previous film adaptations), also how are we to determine Spielberg level quality or even if that means good (I mean he has come out with a lot of popular films) beyond shrugging over the honest fact that it is a subjective measurement.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#779 Post by DarkImbecile » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:23 pm

ABC/Academy caves, all categories to air live

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#780 Post by dda1996a » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:24 pm

By meaning Blockbuster I don't mean any movie that sells a lot of tickets, as La La Land made quite a lot of money but isn't a blockbuster. The designation I see is a film with a hefty budget meant to reach a very wide audience with promises of action scenes. It might have had a big budget, but I wouldn't necessarily count Blade Runner 2049 as exactly one, and this I think is one of the reasons it tanked (as much as I love it). Say what you will but LotR doesn't feel exactly like fitting in this designation. But my original post specifically meant regarding super hero movies. The last thing we need is more of them. This might sound not PC, but I felt the same about Wonder Woman. Just because your film finally shows a minority as the main superhero doesn't make your film that much better. I feel like this will open the gate for any "blockbuster" to add a little political agenda to it and cash in on it. Which is fine if it gets more minorities the chance to lead a superhero movie, but let's not confuse adding an interesting political/ideological side to an underwhelming CGI mess with a properly great cinema.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#781 Post by Altair » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:37 pm

dda1996a wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:24 pm
The designation I see is a film with a hefty budget meant to reach a very wide audience with promises of action scenes... Say what you will but LotR doesn't feel exactly like fitting in this designation.
I don't mean to be caustic, but these two clauses precisely contradict each other - The Lord of Rings had 'a hefty budget meant to reach a very wide audience with promises of action scenes.' It was also a very fine trilogy and rendering of Tolkien. It seems as though you're using 'blockbuster' as a pejorative term, and then exempting films you like from such a category.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#782 Post by Kirkinson » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:31 am

Bette Midler will be the "surprise" guest performing the Mary Poppins song.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#783 Post by lacritfan » Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:59 pm

Writers Guild Awards
Original Screenplay - Eighth Grade
Adapted Screenplay - Can You Ever Forgive Me?

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#784 Post by Omensetter » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:20 pm

Queen + Adam Lambert to perform at Oscars

Hopefully they lead things off, so I know when to start watching, if I indeed do so.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#785 Post by furbicide » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:11 pm

And if so, hopefully it's the last we'll be hearing of Bohemian Rhapsody for the night...

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#786 Post by Cremildo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:02 pm

It'll be the last we'll be hearing of the movie if the performance comes after it wins Sound Mixing, Actor, and Film Editing.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#787 Post by domino harvey » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:03 pm

I think Vice will win editing, but I get your point!

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#788 Post by domino harvey » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:18 pm

Predix time, I guess:

Best Pic: Green Book
Best Director: Cuaron
Best Actress: Colman
Best Actor: Malek
Best Sup Actress: Weisz
Best Sup Actor: Ali
Best Adapt Screenplay: BlacKkKlansman
Best Orig Screenplay: the Favourite
Best Cinematography: Cold War
Best Foreign: Cold War
Best Editing: Vice

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#789 Post by soundchaser » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:29 pm

You're a little more optimistic than I about how exciting this will be, domino. I think it's gonna go down like so:

Best Picture: Roma
Best Director: Cuaron
Best Actor: Malek
Best Actress: Close
Best Supporting Actor: Ali
Best Supporting Actress: King
Best Adapted Screenplay: BlacKkKlansman
Best Original Screenplay: The Favourite
Cinematography: Roma
Best Foreign: Cold War
Editing: Bohemian Rhapsody
Best Animated: Spider-Verse
Animated Short: Bao
Costume: Black Panther
Production: The Favourite
Documentary: Free Solo
Makeup: Vice
Score: Beale Street
Song: Shallow

Sound could go any number of ways, effects will *probably* go to Avengers, and I'm not quite sure about the rest.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#790 Post by Cremildo » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:44 pm

Picture: Roma (alternate: Green Book)
Director: Alfonso Cuarón, Roma (alternate: none)
Actor: Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody (alternate: none)
Actress: Glenn Close, The Wife (alternate: none)
Supporting Actor: Mahershala Ali, Green Book (alternate: Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?)
Supporting Actress: Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk (alternate: Rachel Weisz, The Favourite)
Original Screenplay: The Favourite (alternate: Roma)
Adapted Screenplay: BlacKkKlansman (alternate: Can You Ever Forgive Me?)
Foreign Language Film: Roma (alternate: Cold War, just in case those who vote for Roma in Best Picture don't vote for it here)
Animated Feature: Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse (alternate: none)
Documentary Feature: Free Solo (alternate: Minding the Gap)
Original Score: Black Panther (alternate: If Beale Street Could Talk)
Original Song: "Shallow", A Star Is Born (alternate: none)
Sound Mixing: Bohemian Rhapsody (alternate: A Star Is Born)
Sound Editing: Black Panther (alternate: Bohemian Rhapsody)
Visual Effects: Avengers - Infinity War (alternate: First Man)
Make-up & Hairstyling: Vice (alternate: Mary Queen of Scots)
Costume Design: The Favourite (alternate: Black Panther)
Production Design: The Favourite (alternate: Black Panther)
Cinematography: Roma (alternate: Cold War)
Film Editing: Bohemian Rhapsody (alternate: Vice)

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#791 Post by swo17 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:50 pm

Best Oscars: this Oscars

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#792 Post by Big Ben » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:01 pm

I confess I'm watching this out of habit, love and now for the high probability of schadenfreude on the Academy's behalf. Are we taking bets on how cringe it will be though?

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#793 Post by Omensetter » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:28 pm

I think it's cool they're letting Elsie Fisher present an award, at least.

If Close wins, it will probably be because a sizable portion of voters voted for her without seeing her movie.

It's bizarre that everyone votes on cinematography, but I think that will push Cuarón over Zal.

Picture --- Green Book
Director --- Alfonso Cuarón, Roma
Actor --- Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
Actress --- Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Supporting Actor --- Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Supporting Actress --- Rachel Weisz, The Favourite
Adapted Screenplay --- BlacKkKlansman
Original Screenplay --- The Favourite
Cinematography --- Roma
Editing --- Vice
Costume Design --- The Favourite
Makeup and Hairstyling --- Vice (How is The Favourite not nominated here?)

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#794 Post by domino harvey » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:59 pm


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Re: Awards Season 2018

#795 Post by Big Ben » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:08 am

Thank you for sharing that and I it certainly agree with you about how measured it is. More than once in the last few years he's made me wonder why he's still talking but I think he's on the money here for the most part.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#796 Post by knives » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:46 am

It also makes Green Book sound mildly interesting which is a bit of a surprise.

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#797 Post by Fiery Angel » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:47 am

Ditto Bohemian Rhapsody

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#798 Post by swo17 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:02 pm

YOU GUYS IT'S A TRAP

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#799 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:03 pm

Fiery Angel wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:47 am
Ditto Bohemian Rhapsody
No gay victims in that narrative! Wait, who directed that again? Oh, um... I have to go out to lunch! *loud foot stomps, creaky door slamming*

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Re: Awards Season 2018

#800 Post by knives » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:05 pm

swo17 wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:02 pm
YOU GUYS IT'S A TRAP
TBH I wouldn't have mentioned that if it weren't for this being the second article to do that.

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