Alien Franchise (1979-?)

Discussions of specific films and franchises.
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
Adam X
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:04 am

Re: Untitled Alien Sequel (Neill Blomkamp, 201?)

#151 Post by Adam X » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:50 am

(Damn, forgot I was on the internet ](*,) ).
Really, the idea of forgetting 3 & 4 just seems creatively lazy, and appears to be part of the whole dismissal of these two films while ignoring all the really good elements to them. After all, the studio responsible for producing the new film is also responsible, by way of the series producers, from grinding things to a halt in the first place with all the usual script revisions, crew changes, post/production interference etc.

I'd still say though, that most series sequels ignore the main points of the original film that got things going and dilute and further derail everything the further along things go. This is hardly presenting a new argument, either. Reboots, remakes, and ignoring previous sequels is all part of this. Despite the mixed results of the final film, at least Prometheus chose to present a side story rather than throwing everything out. If you want to ignore certain films, but not others, why not just go off on a tangent or start from scratch rather than pretending two perfectly interesting sequels don't exist, despite what some may think of where things ended up.
Lost Highway wrote:You seem to be in a minority who wants the further adventures of Clone Ripley and Call, that fembot played by Winona Ryder.
Maybe, though more for a development of the world presented than any particular love for Call. Ripley's clone on the other hand is incredibly fascinating and features a fantastically animalistic performance from Sigourney Weaver. I like to think of Resurrection as a somewhat poetic, blackly comic coda to the series, while taking Ripley off in a really interesting, inherently tragic direction.

I'm still really interested to see where Blomkamp might take the film, but I do think it would be short sighted to ignore half of what is a rare series of films, each a creative expression of the respective director's while continuing to maintain a fairly consistent universe. While I really like it, I think thematically and somewhat stylistically, Aliens is actually the odd one out, and the constant drive toward taking Cameron's film as the blue print or touchstone for the series is completely ignoring most of what makes the films so interesting and creatively satisfying. Still, as has been shown with this series, nothing is really set in stone as to the direction it might take until the film is actually released. At the least, the earlier artwork released suggests interesting potential for where this film might head.
Last edited by Adam X on Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:20 am, edited 3 times in total.

User avatar
Lost Highway
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:41 am
Location: Berlin, Germany

Re: Untitled Alien Sequel (Neill Blomkamp, 201?)

#152 Post by Lost Highway » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:02 am

Adam Grikepelis wrote:(Damn, forgot I was on the internet ](*,) ).

Yup, and as so often what I'm reading on forums is that people have already made up their mind about a film about which we know very little so far and instead keep proposing the film they personally want to see. Because having an opinion set in stone is so much more important than keeping an open mind.

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Prometheus (Ridley Scott, 2012)

#153 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:04 am

Shooting will now start in January.
“I’ve got back into the sci-fi thing, I kind of adore it”
With how promising The Martian looks, this may not be too bad of a thing if he becomes a full-on sci-fi director again.


flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#155 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:10 pm

A 30th anniversary edition of Aliens comes out September 13th. According to thedigitalbits, it'll include a new interview with James Cameron.

Image

User avatar
tenia
Ask Me About My Bassoon
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#156 Post by tenia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:13 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:According to thedigitalbits, it'll include a new interview with James Cameron.
So it wouldn't simply be the old disc repackaged, but a new disc re-authored to accomodate a new interview ? Allow me to doubt it.

User avatar
Roger Ryan
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:04 pm
Location: A Midland town spread and darkened into a city

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#157 Post by Roger Ryan » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:02 am

tenia wrote:
flyonthewall2983 wrote:According to thedigitalbits, it'll include a new interview with James Cameron.
So it wouldn't simply be the old disc repackaged, but a new disc re-authored to accomodate a new interview ? Allow me to doubt it.
Perhaps it's a print interview included in the booklet?

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#158 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:12 am

According to the description, it will have both versions of the film, a new featurette, the commentary track, plus the Superior Firepower: Making Aliens doc (complete with "Enhancement"), which on the Anthology set is on a separate disc.

User avatar
tenia
Ask Me About My Bassoon
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#159 Post by tenia » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:46 am

I still strongly doubt FOX will re-author the disc and add these video extras on-disc (which would be quite a huge chunk of video to incorporate along with a 2h37 movie).

User avatar
Roger Ryan
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:04 pm
Location: A Midland town spread and darkened into a city

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#160 Post by Roger Ryan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:07 pm

The Superior Firepower documentary and "Enhancement Pods" total close to four hours of content. Even though all of this material is in SD, I'd have to think they'd do two discs* - one for the two edits of the film plus commentary and one for the new featurette (in HD, probably) and bonus features.

*I know, the photo only shows one disc!

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#161 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:16 am

Well on the Anthology disc it's shared with 3 other docs of similar considerable length, so it's not impossible.

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Untitled Alien Sequel (Neill Blomkamp, 201?)

#162 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:46 pm

There's a way this can work. Frame the 3rd film (and by extension the 4th as well) as one of Ripley's nightmares. It's so bleak it could actually work.

User avatar
Big Ben
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:54 pm
Location: Great Falls, Montana

Re: Untitled Alien Sequel (Neill Blomkamp, 201?)

#163 Post by Big Ben » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:00 pm

All they really need to do is to simply ignore the other two films. People don't even talk about them all that much so it's not like we'd miss out if they were no longer pieces of the canonical timeline.

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Untitled Alien Sequel (Neill Blomkamp, 201?)

#164 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:11 pm

I'd normally agree, but something would be necessary to explain Newt, Hicks and Bishop still being around. It wouldn't have to be very long or convoluted at all, at most just a throwaway line that explains it. If done well enough it could actually shine those 2 films in something of a better light.

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#165 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:43 pm

Watching Aliens with the commentary track, and I wondered how it sounded in the theatrical cut as opposed to the special edition which the track was recorded against. Interestingly it seemed to be edited rather seamlessly on the theatrical version.

hanshotfirst1138
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:06 pm

Re: Alien Anthology Blu-ray

#166 Post by hanshotfirst1138 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:34 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Mr Sausage wrote:I like the workprint version of Alien 3. Not more than the first two in the series (it's still very flawed), but it's much, much more satisfying than the limp theatrical version.
What do you make of Cameron's directors cut, as opposed to the theatrical one for Aliens?
I think that's one case where it's a significant improvement, giving the world and characters more texture and ratcheting up the suspense. If only it didn't have the fucking teal-washed color-timing on the Blu-ray.

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#167 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:32 pm

Image
Last edited by flyonthewall2983 on Fri May 19, 2017 3:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Big Ben
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:54 pm
Location: Great Falls, Montana

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#168 Post by Big Ben » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:28 pm

I love the poster. But that doesn't necessarily make me excited for the film itself. My sincerest hope is that he brings it back to it's roots or makes it like Aliens.

User avatar
tenia
Ask Me About My Bassoon
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#169 Post by tenia » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:24 am

After Prometheus, I'm just happy it's not directed by Ridley Scott.

User avatar
swo17
Bloodthirsty Butcher
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:25 am
Location: SLC, UT

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#170 Post by swo17 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:30 am

But it is?

User avatar
MoonlitKnight
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:44 pm

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#171 Post by MoonlitKnight » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:45 am

While I know calling this "Prometheus 2" would be silly given that the eponymous ship was destroyed at the end of the first movie, do they have to bring the "Alien" name back into this? I personally would rather view this series of movies more as a spinoff to that one, rather than having direct ties. :-k

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#172 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:55 am

MoonlitKnight wrote:While I know calling this "Prometheus 2" would be silly given that the eponymous ship was destroyed at the end of the first movie, do they have to bring the "Alien" name back into this? I personally would rather view this series of movies more as a spinoff to that one, rather than having direct ties. :-k
I keep thinking it's very possible it'll just be called Covenant as it gets closer to release.

User avatar
tenia
Ask Me About My Bassoon
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#173 Post by tenia » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:30 am

swo17 wrote:But it is?
Crap, I thought it was the Neill Blomkamp movie. #-o

flyonthewall2983
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:31 pm
Location: Indiana
Contact:

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#174 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:38 am

tenia wrote:Crap, I thought it was the Neill Blomkamp movie. #-o
I think that's still happening, but I think what's holding it back right now is either one of two things. Either Fox wants to see how well this will do to see if they can justify finally giving Blomkamp's movie the greenlight, or that Fox will give it the go after this anyway because his story will act as the finale to the franchise. It's very most likely the former, but I like the idea of it all coming to an end with a Ripley-centered movie.

User avatar
tenia
Ask Me About My Bassoon
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am

Re: Alien: Covenant (Ridley Scott, 2017)

#175 Post by tenia » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:44 am

I've read about Covenant on Wikipedia, and the Blomkamp film seems to still be happening but Scott has requested Covenant to be the first of the 2 to be done and released.

Post Reply