The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Project)

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#626 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:07 am

The Street is the Leaf one, yeah. I'm going to get Swo to set me up to display the rest of the information on the Orphans and Also-rans tomorrow, I ran out of energy tonight.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#627 Post by YnEoS » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:06 am

Hey, matrixschmatrix, did you get my list? There should be like 20 or 30 more orphans there.

Anyways, I didn't realize how crazy out of step I was with the rest of the board on animation (or more likely I'm just missing out on a lot of great animation myself). I'll do a huge write up in the sad panda thread on all the stuff I should've been pushing earlier. Wish I had more time to participate on this list.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#628 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:17 am

Looks like there were at least eleven lists, so that's a pretty good turnout after pulling teeth for the Musicals list. That Disney had a fair representation but no one voted for their best, the Little Mermaid, is typical "I don't get the forum" stuff

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#629 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:12 pm

Hey everyone, a couple of lists slipped by without getting tabulated, so there are going to be updates- the ones on the previous page aren't final.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#630 Post by Lowry_Sam » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:23 pm

Well I had my animation list saved as a draft for a while now because I was going to try to get in a few from my Russian animation discs & before I could fine tune the ranking & pad with various shorts, but I completely fell asleep last night before I even had a chance to pop the dvd into the player. I also didn't have the time to go back over the thread & take in everyone's recommendations. I just submitted my list late & now realized I forgot to include Persepolis, which I really wanted somewhere in my top 20.... and I forgot to track down my favorite of the WB cartoons that caricatures Hollywood stars from the golden era, which I also would have included in the top 20. Perhaps I shouldn't have spent my free time in the past week taking in all the Disney/Pixar films. I avoided them like the plague when they came out because of the hype that surrounded them but felt obligated to see them before submitting the list, & while some turned out to be not as bad as I expected, I have a faint sickly feeling like over indulging on desserts & feel my time could have been better spent checking out more shorts that I would have had a higher likelihood of being impressed by. Hopefully I'll be better prepared next go round.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#631 Post by Lowry_Sam » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:47 pm

Damn. I forgot Harvey Krumpet too, which probably would be top 10 for me....oh well.

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#632 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:48 pm

I haven't started entering your list yet, so if you want to email me an updated one, that's fine.

edit: And now I have, so everything's locked.

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#633 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:06 pm

With a final vote count of 20, here is the actual and correct (hopefully)

The Animation List

01. My Neighbor Totoro/Tonari no Totoro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1988) 502/13(8)/1
02. Grave of the Fireflies/Hotaru no haka (Isao Takahata, 1988) 349/9(5)/4
03. Duck Amuck (Chuck Jones, 1953) 322/9(4)/5(x2)
04. Begone Dull Care (Norman McLaren, 1949) 321/8(5)/1
05. Wall-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008) 299/8(4)/1
06. Fantasia (James Algar et al., 1940) 298/8(4)/2
06. Spirited Away/Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001) 298/9(5)/1
08. Hedgehog in the Fog (Yuri Norstein, 1975) 284/8(3)/2(x2)
09. The Man Who Planted Trees/L'homme qui plantait des arbres (Frederic Back, 1987) 282/7(5)/1
10. Princess Mononoke/Mononoke-hime (Hayao Miyazaki, 1997) 274/10(2)/3
11. Pinocchio (Ben Sharpsteen & Hamilton Luske et al., 1940) 270/10(3)/1
12. Tale of Tales/Skazka Skazok (Yuri Norstein, 1979) 251/7(3)/1
13. The Wrong Trousers (Nick Park, 1993) 241/9(1)/6
14. Street of Crocodiles (Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay, 1986) 231/6(3)/3
15. Up (Pete Docter & Bob Peterson, 2009) 205/6(2)/3
16. Blinkity Blank (Norman McLaren, 1955) 203/6(3)/2
17. The Triplets of Belleville (Sylvain Chomet, 2003) 200/6(2)/1
18. Motion Painting No. 1 (Oskar Fischinger, 1947) 189/6(4)/1
19. Fantastic Mr. Fox (Wes Anderson, 2009) 182/8/13
20. Fantastic Planet/La planète sauvage (René Laloux, 1973) 181/7(1)/5
21. Swing, You Sinners (Dave Fleischer, 1930) 177/5(3)/2
22. Bambi (David Hand et al., 1942) 176/6(1)/8
23. Food/Jídlo (Jan Švankmajer, 1993) 174/6(2)/4
23. Porky in Wackyland (Bob Clampett, 1938) 174/5/12(x2)
25. Stairs/Schody (Stefan Schabenbeck, 1969) 170/5(1)/9
26. Whisper of the Heart/Mimi wo sumaseba (Yoshifumi Kondo, 1995) 169/6(2)/5
27. The Adventures of Prince Achmed/Die Abenteuer des Prinzen Achmed (Lotte Reiniger, 1926) 168/7(1)/9
27. A Charlie Brown Christmas (Bill Melendez, 1965) 168/6/14
27. Waking Life (Richard Linklater, 2001) 168/6(1)/8
30. The Story of the Fox/Le roman de Renard (Władysław Starewicz & Irene Starewicz, 1930) 165/4(3)/2
31. Yellow Submarine (George Dunning, 1968) 163/6(1)/9
32. Akira (Katsuhiro Ôtomo, 1988) 162/4(3)/4
33. Dimensions of Dialogue/Moznosti dialogu (Jan Švankmajer, 1982) 158/4(2)/4
33. The Great Piggy Bank Robbery (Bob Clampett, 1946) 158/5(2)/2
35. Only Yesterday/Omohide poro poro (Isao Takahata, 1991) 155/5/11
35. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (David Hand, WIlfred Jackson & Ben Sharpsteen, 1937) 155/5(2)/2
37. Neighbors (Norman McLaren, 1952) 153/6(2)/7
38. Fehérlófia (Marcell Jankovics, 1981) 152/4(2)/4
39. Dumbo (Ben Sharpsteen et al., 1941) 150/5(2)/1
40. Alice/Neco z Alenky (Jan Švankmajer, 1988) 146/4(2)/2
41. Watership Down (Martin Rosen, 1978) 143/4(2)/3
42. The Iron Giant (Brad Bird, 1999) 140/4(1)/4
43. Tango (Zbigniew Rybczyński, 1982) 137/5/11
44. Free Radicals (Len Lye, 1958) 135/4(2)/3
44. How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (Chuck Jones & Ben Washam, 1966) 135/5(1)/10
46. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind/Kaze no tani no Naushika (Hayao Miyazaki, 1984) 131/4(1)/1
47. Bimbo's Initiation (Dave Fleischer, 1931) 129/6/15
48. The Tell-Tale Heart (Ted Parmalee, 1953) 128/5(2)/7(x2)
49. The Sinking of the Lusitania (Winsor McCay, 1918) 125/4(2)/6
50. Creature Comforts (Nick Park, 1989) 124/5/11
51. Castle in the Sky/Tenkû no shiro Rapyuta (Hayao Miyazaki, 1986) 122/5/13
52. The Secret of Kells (Tomm Moore & Nora Twomey, 2009) 121/3(2)/1
53. The Old Mill (Wilfred Jackson, 1937) 120/4(1)/10
54. Rehearsals for Extinct Anatomies (Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay, 1987) 119/4/11
55. Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century (Chuck Jones, 1953) 117/4(1)/4
55. The Incredibles (Brad Bird, 2004) 117/5(1)/6
55. The Mascot/Fétiche (Władysław Starewicz, 1934) 117/3(1)/1
58. Rabbit of Seville (Chuck Jones, 1950) 116/5(1)/6
58. The Skeleton Dance (Walt Disney, 1929) 116/4(1)/6
60. Sleeping Beauty (Clyde Geronimi, 1959) 114/4(1)/6
61. What's Opera, Doc? (Chuck Jones, 1957) 113/5/17
62. The Hand/Ruka (Jirí Trnka, 1966) 111/4/13
63. Persepolis (Vincent Paronnaud & Marjane Satrapi, 2007) 110/3(2)/5
64. Deputy Droopy (Tex Avery & Michael Lah, 1955) 109/4/12
64. Fugue (Georges Schwizgebel, 1998) 109/3(1)/9
66. Study Number 7 (Oskar Fischinger, 1931) 108/3(2)/1
67. Three Little Bops (Friz Freleng, 1957) 105/3(1)/6
68. King-Size Canary (Tex Avery, 1947) 104/3(1)/9
69. The Dover Boys at Pimento University or The Rivals of Roquefort Hall (Chuck Jones, 1942) 103/5(1)/5
69. The Thief and the Cobbler (Richard Williams, 1993) 103/3(1)/7
71. Mindscape/Le Paysagiste (Jacques Drouin, 1976) 101/4(1)/4
72. Der Fuhrer's Face (Jack Kinney, 1942) 95/4/11(x2)
73. Coraline (Henry Selick, 2009) 92/3/13
74. Snow White (Dave Fleischer & Roland Crandall, 1933) 89/2(2)/3
75. Kiki's Delivery Service/Majo no takkyûbin (Hayao Miyazaki, 1989) 88/3(1)/6
76. Beauty and Beast (Gary Trousdale & Kirk Wise, 1991) 87/2(1)/1
76. A Scanner Darkly (Richard Linklater, 2006) 87/4/17
76. Shooting Range/Tir (Vladmir Tarasov, 1979) 87/3(1)/5
79. Komposition in Blau (Oskar Fischinger, 1935) 85/3(1)/2
79. Night on the Galactic Railroad/Ginga-tetsudo no yoru (Gisaburo Sugii, 1985) 85/3(1)/10
81. Red Hot Riding Hood (Tex Avery, 1943) 84/3(1)/5
82. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007) 83/4/19
83. Breakfast on the Grass/Eine murul (Priit Pärn, 1987) 82/2(1)/1
83. The Cameraman's Revenge/Mest kinematograficheskogo operatora (Władysław Starewicz, 1912) 82/5/11
83. One Froggy Evening (Chuck Jones, 1955) 82/3/14
86. The Games of Angels/Les jeux des anges (Walerian Borowcyzk, 1967) 81/2(1)/8
86. Rooty Toot Toot (John Hubley, 1951) 81/3/16
88. Bad Luck Blackie (Tex Avery, 1949) 80/3(1)/7
88. The Nose/Le Nez (Alexander Alexeiff & Claire Parker, 1963) 80/2(1)/5
88. Toy Story 3 (Lee Unkrich, 2010) 80/2(1)/3
91. The Man With No Shadow/L'Homme sans ombre (Georges Schwizgebel, 2004) 79/2(1)/6
92. Donald in Mathmagic Land (Hamilton Luske, Wolfgang Reitherman & Les Clark et al., 1959) 77/2(1)/3
92. The Plague Dogs (Martin Rosen, 1982) 77/2(1)/7
94. Inspiration/Inspirace (Karel Zeman, 1949) 76/4(1)/3
95. Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs (Bob Clampett, 1943) 75/2(1)/4
96. The Sandman (Paul Berry, 1991) 74/2(1)/6
96. Walking/En Marchant (Ryan Larkin, 1969) 74/3/16
98. Education for Death (Clyde Geronimi, 1943) 73/3/13
99. Rejected (Don Hertzfeldt, 2000) 72/3/12
100. Hunger/La Faim (Peter Foldes, 1974) 71/2/14
100. The Plastics Inventor (Jack King, 1944) 71/2(1)/7
100. Spacy (Takashi Ito, 1981) 71/2(1)/5


Also-Rans

Big Bang Big Boom (BLU, 2010) 70/4/14
The Mechanical Monsters (Dave Fleischer, 1941) 69/3/17
Jabberwocky/Žvahlav aneb šatičky slaměného Huberta (Jan Švankmajer, 1971) 68/2(1)/9
Lupin the Third: The Castle of Cagliostro/Rupan sansei: Kariosutoro no shiro (Hayao Miyazaki, 1979) 68/2(1)/1
Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich, 2003) 67/4(1)/2
There It Is (Harold L. Muller & Charley Bowers, 1928) 67/3/21
Allegretto (Oskar Fischinger, 1936) 66/2(1)/10
All is Full of Love (Chris Cunningham, 1999) 65/2/12
An Optical Poem (Oskar Fischinger, 1938) 65/3/23
When the Wind Blows (Jimmy T. Murakami, 1986) 65/4(1)/3
FLCL (Takeshi Ando, Shoji Saeki & Kazuya Tsurumaki et al., 2001) 64/2/16
Mitten/Varezhka (Roman Kachanov, 1967) 63/3(1)/9
The Cowboy's Flute/Mu di (Te Wei & Qian Jiajun, 1963) 61/2/12
The King & the Mockingbird/Le Roi et l'Oiseau (Paul Grimault, 1980) 61/2(1)/2
A Wild Hare (Tex Avery, 1940) 61/2/20
The Wind in the Willows (Mark Hall & Chris Taylor, 1983) 61/2(1)/4
The Wings of Honneamise/Ôritsu uchûgun Oneamisu no tsubasa (Hiroyuki Yamaga, 1987) 61/2(1)/1
5 Centimeters Per Second/Byôsoku 5 senchimêtoru (Makoto Shinkai, 2007) 60/2/18
Animal Farm (Joy Batchelor & John Halas, 1954) 60/3/24
The Three Caballeros (Norman Ferguson, Clyde Geronimi & Jack Kinney, 1944) 60/3/24
The Band Concert (Wilfred Jackson, 1935) 59/3/16
Long-Haired Hare (Chuck Jones, 1949) 59/4(1)/3
Northwest Hounded Police (Tex Avery, 1946) 59/4/32(x2)
Nightangel/L'Heure des anges (Bretislav Pojar & Jacques Drouin, 1986) 58/2/11
Presto (Doug Sweetland, 2005) 58/3/15
Synchromy (Norman McLaren, 1971) 58/2/20
Yantra (James Whitney, 1957) 58/2/18
Alice in Wonderland (Clyde Geronimi, Wilfred Jackson & Hamilton Luske, 1951) 56/2(1)/9
Hotel E/Hotell E (Priit Pärn, 1992) 56/2(1)/7
The Nightmare Before Christmas (Henry Selick, 1993) 55/2(1)/10
Minnie the Moocher (Dave Fleischer & Willard Bowsky, 1932) 54/4/31
The Aristocats (Wolfgang Reitherman, 1970) 53/2/15
Ghost in the Shell/Kôkaku kidôtai (Mamoru Oshii, 1995) 53/3(1)/9
Rowing Across the Atlantic/La traversée de l'Atlantique à la rame (Jean-Francoise Laguionie, 1978) 53/2(1)/9
Jeu (Georges Schwizgebel, 2006) 52/2/23
The Secret World of Arrietty/Kari-gurashi no Arietti (Hayao Miyazaki, 2010) 52/2(1)/8
Sing Beast Sing (Marv Newland, 1980) 52/2/22
Balloon (Ken Lidster, 1991) 51/2(1)/4
Words, Words, Words/Reci Reci Reci (Michaela Pavlátová, 1991) 51/2/24
Monsters, Inc (Pete Docter, 2001) 50/2/25
My Neighbors the Yamadas/Hôhokekyo tonari no Yamada-kun (Isao Takahata, 1999) 49/3/21
Toy Story (John Lasseter, 1995) 49/2(1)/10
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad (James Algar, Clyde Geronimi & Jack Kinney, 1949) 48/3/24
A Corny Concerto (Bob Clampett, 1943) 48/2/25
A Fantasy/Fantasmagorie (Émile Cohl , 1908) 48/4/24
Princes and Princesses (Michel Ocelot, 2000) 48/2/11
Renaissance (Walerian Borowcyzk, 1964) 47/2/16
Angel's Egg/Tenshi no tamago (Mamoru Oshii, 1985) 46/2/11
The Lion King (Roger Aliers & Rob Minkoff, 1994) 46/2/15
Screen Play (Barry Purves, 1993) 46/2/23
Bambi Meets Godzilla (Marv Newland, 1969) 45/3(1)/9
Black Ice (Stan Brakhage, 1994) 45/2/11
Scaredy Cat (Chuck Jones, 1948) 45/2/14
The Big Snooze (Bob Clampett, 1946) 44/2/29(x2)
Perfect Blue (Satoshi Kon, 1997) 44/2/27
Prometheus' Garden (Bruce Bickford, 2008) 44/2/21
Allegro Non Troppo (Bruno Bozzetto, 1977) 43/2/21
Cinderella (Clyde Geronimi, WIlfred Jackson & Hamilton Luske, 1950) 42/2/16
A Christmas Carol (Richard Williams, 1971) 41/2/29
Paprika (Satoshi Kon, 2006) 41/2/24
Kirikou and the Sorceress/Kirikou et la sorcière (Michel Ocelot, 1998) 40/2/28
Labyrinth (Jan Lenica, 1963) 40/2/22
A Little Phantasy on a 19th-century Painting (Norman McLaren, 1946) 40/2/26
Fast and Furry-ous (Chuck Jones, 1949) 39/3/27
Tortoise Beats Hare (Tex Avery, 1941) 39/2/27
Gandahar (René Laloux, 1988) 38/2/19
The Cat Came Back (Cordell Barker, 1988) 37/2/30
Chromophobia (Raoul Servais, 1969) 37/2/25
The Pied Piper of Hamelin/Krysar (Jirí Barta, 1986) 36/2/32
The Public Voice/Den offentlige røst (Lejf Marcussen, 1988) 36/2/21
The Secret Adventures of Tom Thumb (Dave Borthwick, 1993) 36/3/23
Thru the Mirror (David Hand, 1936) 36/2/26
Gerald McBoing-Boing (Robert Cannon, 1950) 35/2/25
When the Day Breaks (Wendy Tilby & Amanda Forbis, 1999) 35/2/30
South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (Trey Parker & Matt Stone, 1999) 33/4/31
Cat Soup/Nekojiru-so (Tatsuo Sato, 2001) 32/3/24
Les Astronauts (Walerian Borowcyzk & Chris Marker, 1959) 32/2/34
Steamboat Willie (Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks, 1928) 32/2/26
The Cat Concerto (Joseph Barbera & William Hanna, 1947) 30/2/28
Tusalava (Len Lye, 1929) 30/2/29
The Rescuers (Wolfgang Reitherman, John Lounsbery & Art Stevens, 1977) 29/2/32
Popeye the Sailor Meets Sindbad the Sailor (Dave Fleischer, 1936) 25/2/27
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time/Toki o kakeru shôjo (Mamoru Hosoda, 2006) 24/3/40
Lonely Dogs/Les Chiens Isolés (Remi Bastie, Nicolas Dehghani & Jonathon Djob Nkondo, 2011) 24/2/32
Paranorman (Chris Butler & Sam Fell, 2012) 24/2/39(x2)
Luxo, Jr. (John Lasseter, 1986) 23/2/37
Ko-Ko's Earth Control (Dave Fleischer, 1928) 22/2/33
Music Land (Wilfred Jackson, 1935) 20/2/39
Mothlight (Stan Brakhage, 1964) 19/2/33
The Sword in the Stone (Wolfgang Reitherman, 1963) 19/2/38
25 Ways to Quit Smoking (Bill Plympton, 1989) 18/2/36
Hare-way to the Stars (Chuck Jones, 1949) 18/2/40
The Great Mouse Detective (Ron Clements, Burny Mattinson & John Musker et al., 1986) 17/2/35
Star Guitar (Michel Gondry, 2002) 16/2/41
The Blue Umbrella (Saschka Unseld, 2013) 15/2/42
We Can Do It/Eto v nashikh silakh (Lev Atamanov, 1970) 15/2/38
Mickey's Christmas Carol (Burny Mattinson, 1983) 14/2/44(x2)
Night on Bald Mountain/Une nuit sur le mont chauve (Alexander Alexeiff & Claire Parker, 1933) 11/2/45
Film Film Film (Fyodor Khitruk, 1970) 9/2/44
Media (Zbigniew Rybczyński, 1980) 9/2/45
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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#634 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:07 pm

Orphans

8 Ball Bunny (Chuck Jones, 1950)
The Adventures of Mark Twain (Will Vinton, 1985)
Aladdin (Ron Clements & John Musker, 1992)
Ali Click (Jérôme Lefdup, Lari Flash & Brian Eno, 1992)
All in a Nutshell (Jack Hannah, 1949)
All-Star Superman (Sam Lui, 2011)
Allures (Jordan Belson, 1961)
Alois Nebel (Tomás Lunák, 2011)
The Arctic Giant (Dave Fleischer, 1942)
The Aroma of Tea (Michael Dudok de Wit, 2006)
The Art of Skiing (John McLeish & Hannes Schroll, 1941)
Asparagus (Suzan Pitt, 1979)
Ave Maria (Vladimir Danilyevich & Ivan Ivanov-Vano, 1972)
Babobilicons (Daina Krumins, 1982)
Baby Bottleneck (Bob Clampett, 1946)
Bagatelles (Lillian Schwartz, 1977)
Balablok (Bertislav Pojar, 1972)
Balance (Lauenstein, 1989)
A Ballad About Green Wood/Balada o zeleném drevu (Jirí Barta, 1983)
Ballet Méchanique (Fernand Léger & Dudley Murphy, 1924)
Barefoot Gen/Hadashi no Gen (Mori Masaki, 1983)
Baseball Bugs (Friz Freleng, 1946)
Basketball Jones (Paul Gruwell, 1974)
Battle Angel Alita/Gunnm (Hiroshi Fukutomi, 1993)
The Bear that Wasn't (Chuck Jones & Maurice Noble, 1965)
Beavis and Butt-Head Do America (Mike Judge et al., 1996)
Bébé's Kids (Bruce W. Smith, 1992)
Benny's Bathtub/Bennys Badekar (Jannik Hastrup & Flemming Quist Møller, 1971)
Billy's Balloon (Don Hertzfeldt, 1998)
Birth of a Notion (Robert McKimson, 1947)
The Birth of a Robot (Len Lye, 1936)
Black and White/Chernoe I Beloe (Leonid Amalrik & Ivan Ivanov-Vano, 1932)
Blitz Wolf (Tex Avery, 1942)
Boomtown (Bill Plympton, 1985)
Boundin' (Roger Gould & Bud Luckey, 2003)
The Boy Who Saw the Iceberg (Paul Driessen, 2000)
Brave (Mark Andrews, Brenda Chapman & Steve Purcell, 2012)
The Brave Little Tailor (Bill Roberts, 1938)
Bus Stop (Andrea Gomez, 1981)
The Case of the Stuttering Pig (Frank Tashlin, 1937)
The Chair/Fotel (Daniel Szczechura, 1964)
Charlotte's Web (Charles A. Nichols & Iwao Takamoto, 1973)
Chicken Run (Nick Park & Peter Lord, 2000)
Chico & Rita (Tono Errando, Javier Mariscal & Fernando Trueba, 2010)
Chie the Brat/Jarinko Chie (Isao Takahata, 1981)
Christopher Crumpet (Robert Cannon, 1953)
Cineblatz (Jeff Keen, 1967)
Clock Cleaners (Ben Sharpsteen, 1937)
A Close Shave (Nick Park, 1995)
The Club of the Laid Off/Klub odlozenych (Jirí Barta, 1989)
A Colour Box (Len Lye, 1935)
The Comb (Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay, 1991)
Corpse Bride (Tim Burton & Mike Johnson, 2005)
A Country Doctor/Kafuka: Inaka isha (Koji Yamamura, 2007)
Crac! (Frederic Back, 1981)
Crazy with the Heat (Bob Carlson, 1947)
Danse Serpentine (Louis Lumière, 1896)
Darkness Light Darkness/Tma/Svetlo/Tma (Jan Švankmajer, 1990)
Day and Night (Teddy Newton, 2010)
Dear Margery Boobs (Bob Godfrey, 1976)
Destino (Dominque Monfery, 2003)
Destruction Inc. (Izzy Sparber, 1942)
The Diary (Nedeljko Dragić , 1974)
Dicky Moe (Gene Deitch, 1962)
Doctor Strange (Frank Paur, Jay Oliva & Dick Sebast et al., 2007)
Dog Gone (Charley Bowers & Bud Fisher, 1926)
Don Quixote/Don Kihot (Vlado Kristi, 1961)
The Dot and the Line: A Romance in Lower Mathematics (Chuck Jones & Maurice Noble, 1965)
Easter Yeggs (Robert McKimson, 1947)
The Epic of Gilgamesh, or This Unnameable Little Broom (Stephen Quay, Timothy Quay & Keith Griffiths, 1987)
Face Like a Frog (Sally Cruikshank, 1988)
The Fall of the House of Usher/Zánik domu Usheru (Jan Švankmajer, 1980)
Falling Hare (Bob Clampett, 1943)
Fast Film (Virgil Widrich, 2003)
Faust (Jan Švankmajer, 1994)
Fear(s) of the Dark/Peur(s) du noir (Marie Caillou, Richard McGuire & Charles Burns, 2007)
Feed the Kitty (Chuck Jones, 1952)
Fern Flowers/Fleur de fougère (Władysław Starewicz, 1949)
FKO (Marc Reisbig & Hanne Berkaak, 2006)
The Flood/Die Flut (Lutz Dammbeck, 1986)
Flora (Jan Švankmajer, 1989)
Flowers and Trees (Burt Gillett, 1932)
Fly! Peek the Whale/Tobé! Kujira no Peek (Kôji Morimoto, 1991)
The Foghorn Leghorn (Robert McKimson, 1948)
Footprint/L'Empreinte (Jacques Cardon, 1974)
For the Birds (Ralph Eggleston, 2000)
Fritz the Cat (Ralph Bakshi, 1972)
Frog Baseball (Mike Judge, 1992)
From A to Z-Z-Z-Z (Chuck Jones, 1953)
From Up on Poppy Hill/Kokuriko-zaka kara (Goro Miyazaki, 2011)
Fuji (Robert Breer, 1974)
A Game of Stones/Hra s kameny (Jan Švankmajer, 1965)
Gee Whiz-z-z-z-z (Chuck Jones, 1956)
Gerald McBoing! Boing! on Planet Moo (Robert Cannon, 1956)
Geri's Game (Jan Pinkava, 1997)
Gertie the Dinosaur (Winsor McCay, 1914)
Glassy Ocean/Kujira no Chôyaku (Shigeru Tamura, 1998)
Goofy's Glider (Jack Kinney, 1940)
A Grand Day Out (Nick Park, 1989)
Grey Digital Target (Satoshi Dezaki, 1986)
Habfürdö (György Kovásznai, 1980)
Haibane Renmei (Yoshitoshi Abe, 2002)
The Hardest Button to Button (Michel Gondry, 2003)
Harpya (Raoul Servais, 1973)
Haunted House (Walt Disney, 1929)
Heaven and Earth Magic (Harry Smith, 1962)
Heavy Metal (Gerald Potterton, 1981)
Hell's Bells (Ub Iwerks, 1929)
The Hep Cat (Bob Clampett, 1942)
The Heron and the Crane/Tsaplya i zhuravl (Yuri Norstein, 1974)
High Diving Hare (Friz Freleng, 1949)
The Hill Farm (Mark Baker, 1989)
Hillbilly Hare (Robert McKimson, 1950)
Hockey Homicide (Jack Kinney, 1945)
The Hole (John Hubley, 1962)
Hommage a La Sarraz (Lutz Dammbeck, 1981)
The Horse/Kon' (Witold Giersz, 1967)
Horton Hatches the Egg (Bob Clampett, 1942)
The House of Small Cubes/Tsumiki no ie/La Maison en Petits Cubes (Kunio Kato, 2008)
How to Be a Detective (Jack Kinney, 1952)
How to Kiss (Bill Plympton, 1989)
Howl's Moving Castle/Hauru no ugoku shiro (Hayao Miyazaki, 2004)
I Married a Strange Person! (Bill Plympton, 1997)
I Miss You (John Kricfalusi, 1997)
Iblard Jikan (Naohisa Inoue, 2007)
If You Spot a Cat Flying Through the Air/Jesli ujrzysz kota fruwajacego po niebie (Daniel Szczechura, 1971)
The Illusionist (Sylvain Chomet, 2010)
Imprints/Empreintes (Jacques Drouin, 2004)
In the Aftermath (Carl Colpaert, 1988)
In the Pink of the Night (Art Davis, 1967)
In the Realms of the Unreal (Jessica Yu, 2004)
Interstella 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem (Kazuhisa Takenouchi, 2003)
Interview (Caroline Leaf & Veronika Soul, 1979)
Intolerance II: The Invasion (Phil Mulloy, 2001)
The Island/Ostrov (Fyodor Khitruk, 1973)
It's Such a Beautiful Day (Don Hertzfeldt, 2012)
It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown (Bill Melendez, 1966)
The Japoteurs (Seymour Kneitel, 1942)
The Jet Cage (Friz Freleng, 1962)
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade/Jin-Rô (Hiroyuki Okiura, 1999)
The Jungle Book (Wolfgang Reitherman, 1967)
Kino's Journey/Kino no tabi (Ryutaro Nakamura, 2003)
Kitty Kornered (Bob Clampett, 1946)
Lady and the Tramp (Clyde Geronimi, WIlfred Jackson & Hamilton Luske, 1955)
The Land Before Time (Don Bluth, 1988)
The Legend of the Overfiend/Chôjin densetsu Urotsukidôji (Hideki Takayama, 1989)
Light Music (Lis Rhodes, 1975)
The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (Bill Melendez, 1979)
The Little House (WIlfred Jackson, 1952)
The Little Prince and the Eight-Headed Dragon/Wanpaku ôji no orochi taiji (Yugo Serikawa, 1963)
Little Red Riding Rabbit (Friz Freleng, 1944)
Little Rural Riding Hood (Tex Avery, 1949)
A Little Western/Maly western (Witold Giersz, 1961)
Lonesome Ghosts (Burt Gillett, 1937)
Lonesome Lenny (Tex Avery, 1946)
Lost and Foundry (Dave Fleischer, 1937)
Love on a Wing (Norman McLaren, 1939)
Lucia, Luis and the Wolf/Lucía, Luís y el lobo (Niles Atallah, Cristobal Leon & Joaquin Cociña, 2008)
Macross Plus (Shôji Kawamori & Shinichirô Watanabe, 1994)
Macross: Do You Remember Love?/Chôjikû yôsai Macross: Ai oboeteimasuka (Noboru Ishiguro & Shôji Kawamori, 1984)
The Magic Ballad/Okon Jyoururi (Tadanari Okamoto, 1982)
The Magic Clock/L'horlogue magique (Władysław Starewicz, 1928)
Magical Maestro (Tex Avery, 1952)
The Male Game/Muzné hry (Jan Švankmajer, 1988)
Man in the Frame/Chelovek v ramke (Fyodor Khitruk, 1966)
Mary and Max (Adam Elliot, 2009)
Mask of the Phantasm (Eric Radomski, Bruce W. Timm & Kevin Altieri, 1993)
McDull, Prince de la Bun (Toe Yuen, 2004)
Memories (Kôji Morimoto, Tensai Okamura & Katsuhiro Ôtomo, 1995)
Metamorphosis I (Lutz Dammbeck, 1979)
Mickey's Trailer (Ben Sharpsteen, 1938)
Midnight Dance (John McCloskey, 1996)
Millenium Actress/Sennen joyû (Satoshi Kon, 2001)
Mistake (Robert Powers, 2009)
The Monk and the Fish/Le moine et le poisson (Michael Dudok de Wit, 1994)
The Monkey King/Da nao tian gong (Wan Laiming, 1965)
Mosiac (Norman McLaren & Evelyn Lambart, 1966)
Mother Goose Goes to Hollywood (Wilfred Jackson, 1938)
Motor Mania (Jack Kinney, 1950)
Mt. Head/Atama-yama (Koji Yamamura, 2002)
Mushi-Shi (Hiroshi Nagahama, 2005)
My Dog Tulip (Paul Fierlinger & Sandra Fierlinger, 2009)
My Life as McDull/Mak dau goo si (Toe Yuen, 2001)
Nasty Quacks (Frank Tashlin, 1945)
Night of the Carrots/Porgandite öö (Priit Pärn, 1998)
Notes on a Triangle/Notes sur un Triangle (René Jodoin, 1966)
Offside/Hors-Jeu (Georges Schwizgebel, 1977)
Oh (Stan Vanderbeek, 1968)
Oh! I Can't Stop!/Oj! Nie moge sie zatrzymac! (Zbigniew Rybczyński, 1975)
The Old Lady and the Pigeons/La Vielle Dame et les Pigeons (Sylvain Chomet, 1997)
The Old Man and the Sea (Aleksandr Petrov, 1999)
Opus IV (Walter Ruttmann, 1925)
Orgesticulanismus (Mathieu Labaye, 2008)
Pantry Panic (Walter Lantz, 1941)
Paperman (John Kahrs, 2012)
Paranoid Android (Magnus Carlsson, 1997)
The Pass/Pereval (Vladmir Tarasov, 1988)
Patlabor - The Movie/Kidô keisatsu patorebâ: Gekijô-ban (Mamoru Oshii, 1989)
Peace Love and Understanding (Mike Judge, 1992)
Peter Pan (Clyde Geronimi, WIlfred Jackson & Hamilton Luske, 1953)
The Phantom Tollbooth (Chuck Jones, Abe Levitow & Dave Monahan, 1970)
Pink-a-Boo (Hawley Pratt, 1966)
The Pirate (Jan Bubenicek, 2002)
The Place Promised in Our Early Days/Kumo no mukô, yakusoku no basho (Makoto Shinkai, 2004)
Planet Hulk (Sam Lui, 2010)
Please Say Something (David O'Reilly, 2008)
A Poet's Life (Kihachiro Kawamoto , 1974)
Pom Poko/Heisei tanuki gassen ponpoko (Isao Takahata, 1994)
Porco Rosso/Kurenai no buta (Hayao Miyazaki, 1992)
Porky's Snooze Reel (Norm McCabe, 1941)
Powers of Ten (Charles Eames & Ray Eames, 1977)
Princess (Anders Morgenthaler, 2006)
Prison Sex (Adam Jones, 1995)
Putting on the Dog (Joseph Barbera & William Hanna, 1944)
A Quiet Week in the House/Tichý týden v dome (Jan Švankmajer, 1969)
Rabbit (Run Wrake, 2005)
Rabbit Fire (Chuck Jones, 1951)
Raumlichtkunst (Oskar Fischinger, 1926)
Repete (Michaela Pavlátová, 1996)
Results of the XII Party Congress (of Cooperation) (Unknown, 1925)
Rikki-Tikki-Tavi (Chuck Jones, 1975)
Ring of Fire (Andreas Hykade, 2000)
Robin Hood (Wolfgang Reitherman, 1973)
Rôjin Z (Hiroyuki Kitabuko, 1991)
The Roll-Call/Apel (Ryszard Czekala, 1971)
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer (Larry Roemer, 1964)
Russian Rhapsody (Bob Clampett, 1944)
Saludos Amigos (Wilfred Jackson, Jack Kinney & Hamilton Luske et al., 1942)
Science Friction (Stan Vanderbeek, 1959)
The Secret of NIMH (Don Bluth, 1982)
Showdown (Izzy Sparber, 1942)
Shrek (Andrew Adamson & Vicky Jensen, 2001)
Siren/Sirene (Raoul Servais, 1968)
Slap Happy Lion (Tex Avery, 1947)
Slink Pink (Hawley Pratt, 1968)
Sock-a-Bye Baby (Dave Fleischer, 1934)
Song of the South (Wilfred Jackson & Harve Foster, 1946)
Songs for Dead Children (Stephen Quay & Timothy Quay, 2003)
Sophie's Place (Larry Jordan, 1986)
Spheres (Norman McLaren & René Jodoin, 1969)
Steamboy (Katsuhiro Ôtomo, 2004)
Story of a Certain Street Corner/Aru machikado no monogatari (Osamu Tezuka, 1962)
The Street (Caroline Leaf, 1976)
Strings (Anders Rønnow Klarlund, 2004)
Study Number 6 (Oskar Fischinger, 1930)
Study Number 8 (Oskar Fischinger, 1931)
Summer Wars (Mamoru Hosoda, 2009)
Superman (Dave Fleischer, 1941)
Superman vs The Elite (Michael Chang, 2012)
Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story (Todd Haynes, 1988)
Swooner Crooner (Frank Tashlin, 1944)
Symphony in Slang (Tex Avery, 1951)
Texas Tom (Joseph Barbera & William Hanna, 1950)
Thank You Mask Man (Lenny Bruce & John Magnuson, 1971)
The Thomas Beale Cypher (Andrew S. Allen, 2010)
Time Masters/Les maîtres du temps (René Laloux, 1982)
To See or Not To See (Bretislav Pojar, 1969)
Together in the Weather (George Pal, 1946)
Tokyo Godfathers (Satoshi Kon & Shogo Furuya, 2003)
Tortoise Wins by a Hare (Bob Clampett, 1943)
Toy Story 2 (John Lasseter, Lee Unkrich & Ash Brannon, 1999)
Trade Tattoo (Len Lye, 1937)
Treasure Planet (Ron Clements & John Musker, 2002)
The Tree and the Cat/Derevo i Koshka (Yevgenly Sivokon, 1983)
The Trip (Kihachiro Kawamoto , 1973)
Trip to Mars (Dave Fleischer, 1924)
Tubby the Tuba (George Pal, 1947)
Tulips Shall Grow (George Pal, 1942)
Tuning the Instruments/Strojenie instrumentów (Jerzy Kucia, 2000)
Turning Brown & Torn in Two (Chris Knox, 1983)
Twilight of Cockroaches/Gokiburi-tachi no tasogare (Hiroaki Yoshida, 1987)
Two Sisters/Entre deux soeurs (Caroline Leaf, 1991)
The Vanished World of Gloves/Zaniklý svet rukavic (Jirí Barta, 1983)
Victory Through Air Power (James Algar & Clyde Geronimi et al., 1943)
Videogioco (Donato Sansone, 2010)
Vincent (Tim Burton, 1982)
Voices of a Distant Star/Hoshi no koe (Makoto Shinkai, 2003)
Voyage to Next (Faith Hubley & John Hubley, 1974)
Walky Talky Hawky (Robert McKimson, 1946)
Waltz With Bashir/Vals Im Bashir (Ari Folman, 2008)
What Price Porky (Bob Clampett, 1938)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (Robert Zemeckis & Richard Williams, 1988)
Who Killed Cock Robin? (David Hand, 1935)
Wind Along the Coast/Veter vdol berega (Ivan Maximov, 2004)
Window Cleaners (Jack King, 1940)
The Worm Turns (Ben Sharpsteen, 1937)
Wreck-It Ralph (Rich Moore, 2012)
Yankee Doodle Daffy (Friz Freleng, 1943)
The Yankee Doodle Mouse (Joseph Barbera & William Hanna, 1943)
Yarn Ball/Klubok (Nikolai Serebryakov, 1968)
You Ought to Be in Pictures (Friz Freleng, 1940)
Your Face (Bill Plympton, 1987)
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#635 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:10 pm

Top Directors

Hayao Miyazaki (1622 points over 10 films)
Chuck Jones (1287 points over 20 films)
Norman McLaren (873 points over 8 films)
Jan Švankmajer (761 points over 11 films)
Tex Avery (695 points over 13 films)
Bob Clampett (690 points over 13 films)
Dave Fleischer (672 points over 12 films)
Ben Sharpsteen (662 points over 6 films)
Oskar Fischinger (641 points over 8 films)
Wilfred Jackson (571 points over 12 films)

Isao Takahata (560 points over 5 films)
Yuri Norstein (553 points over 3 films)
Hamilton Luske (520 points over 7 films)
Stephen Quay (480 points over 5 films)
Timothy Quay (480 points over 5 films)
Nick Park (459 points over 5 films)
Clyde Geronimi (449 points over 9 films)
Władysław Starewicz (392 points over 5 films)
David Hand (380 points over 4 films)
Andrew Stanton (366 points over 2 films)

James Algar (349 points over 3 films)
Brad Bird (340 points over 3 films)
Frederic Back (330 points over 2 films)
Jack Kinney (296 points over 8 films)
René Laloux (268 points over 3 films)
Georges Schwizgebel (261 points over 4 films)
Pete Docter (255 points over 2 films)
Richard Linklater (255 points over 2 films)
Len Lye (254 points over 5 films)
Bill Melendez (228 points over 3 films)

Sylvain Chomet (222 points over 3 films)
Friz Freleng (220 points over 7 films)
Martin Rosen (220 points over 2 films)
Wolfgang Reitherman (214 points over 6 films)
Bob Peterson (205 points over 1 film)
Katsuhiro Ôtomo (187 points over 3 films)
Jacques Drouin (183 points over 3 films)
Zbigniew Rybczyński (183 points over 3 films)
Wes Anderson (182 points over 1 film)
Richard Williams (175 points over 3 films)

Stefan Schabenbeck (170 points over 1 film)
Yoshifumi Kondo (169 points over 1 film)
Lotte Reiniger (168 points over 1 film)
Irene Starewicz (165 points over 1 film)
George Dunning (163 points over 1 film)
Walt Disney (161 points over 3 films)
Walerian Borowcyzk (160 points over 3 films)
Lee Unkrich (158 points over 3 films)
Priit Pärn (157 points over 3 films)
Marcell Jankovics (152 points over 1 film)


Results by Decade

1890s (1 films, 39 points)
1900s (1 film, 48 points)
1910s (3 films, 213 points)
1920s (15 films, 644 points)
1930s (37 films, 2183 points)
1940s (74 films, 3966 points)
1950s (37 films, 2497 points)
1960s (47 films, 1930 points)
1970s (49 films, 2113 points)
1980s (75 films, 4651 points)
1990s (60 films, 2902 points)
2000s (75 films, 3764 points)
2010s (20 films, 550 points)


Top Countries

USA (229 films, 10849 points)
Japan (61 films, 3791 points)
UK (36 films, 2319 points)
Canada (24 films, 1694 points)
France (29 films, 1613 points)
Czechoslovakia (17 films, 1143 points)
USSR (16 films, 1000 points)
Germany (8 films, 582 points)
Poland (11 films, 512 points)
Switzerland (4 films, 261 points)

Ireland (3 films, 175 points)
Hungary (2 films, 166 points)
Italy (3 films, 114 points)
China (2 films, 100 points)
Russia (3 films, 97 points)
Belgium (3 films, 86 points)
Denmark (4 films, 76 points)
Estonia (2 films, 75 points)
East Germany (3 films, 69 points)
Chile (1 film, 44 points)

Australia (2 films, 42 points)
Israel (1 film, 39 points)
Czech Republic (4 films, 37 points)
Hong Kong (2 films, 34 points)
Norway (1 film, 33 points)
Austria (1 film, 29 points)
Spain (1 film, 20 points)
Yugoslavia (2 films, 18 points)
Netherlands (1 film, 9 points)
New Zealand (1 film, 4 points)

Sweden (1 film, 2 points)


Top Studios

Disney (60 films, 3079 points)
Studio Ghibli (15 films, 2296 points)
Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies (36 films, 2093 points)
NFB Canada (22 films, 1658 points)
Pixar (17 films, 1138 points)
SoyuzMultfilm (12 films, 824 points)
Fleischer (9 films, 613 points)
Aardman (5 films, 459 points)
Bandai (8 films, 354 points)
UPA (5 films, 195 points)

Madhouse (7 films, 177 points)
Hanna-Barbera (6 films, 161 points)
Laika (3 films, 117 points)
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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#636 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:13 pm

Lengths

Shorts (0-20 minutes): 13363 points over 306 films
Midlength (20-40 minutes): 2084 points over 32 films
Features (40+ minutes): 10053 points over 156 flms

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#637 Post by zedz » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:24 pm

Thanks! It looks like this was a challenge to tabulate, with so many orphans and also-rans. I still think features got too big a slice of the final pie in terms of quality, but they tend to be the films everybody's seen and the easiest to track down.

I'll figure out what my waifs and strays are and post comments soon.

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#638 Post by zedz » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:16 pm

This was one of the toughest lists for me to compile for several reasons: the wealth of great material; its diversity; my failing memory (there are several great animated shorts I’ve seen over the years that I couldn’t identify for the purpose of list-making).

As threatened, I went with the entirely arbitrary notion of making two lists of 25 films each, narrative and abstract / experimental, then interleaving them. In the final edit I messed things around a little, but essentially that’s how it remains.

5. Raumlichtkunst (Fischinger, 1926 / 2012) – ORPHAN. This is animation’s great lost creation myth. Only now it’s been found. And now it’s up to you to find it whenever it arrives within a day’s travel from where you live.

7. A Quiet Week in the House (Svankmajer, 1969) – ORPHAN. Are you guys kidding me? This is on one of the absolute essential releases for this project but still nobody voted for it? I have to say, an animation list in which Svankmajer doesn’t make the top twenty seems more than a little dubious to me!

10. Darkness Light Darkness (Svankmajer, 1990) ORPHAN. Even more inexplicable, but whatever.

13. Study No. 8 (Sorceror’s Apprentice) (Fischinger, 1931) ORPHAN. I’m hoping this omission is only because nobody’s seen it, but it does give me the chance to complain about the high placing of Fantasia. Sure, as a technical feat it’s terribly impressive, but as a film, it’s a crashing bore. In the time it takes to sit through Disney’s poshlust platitudes, you could watch this marvel more than thirty times and have had a much more enjoyable couple of hours.

14. Oh! I Can’t Stop. . . (Rybczyzinski, 1975) ORPHAN. What? Funny isn’t good enough for you?

15. Presto (Sweetland, 2008) ALSO-RAN. Case in point for the feature bias. Just about every Pixar feature gets more attention than this short, even though I reckon it’s the best thing they’ve ever done.

16. Renaissance (Borowczyk, 1964) ALSO-RAN. If we ever get to do this list project again, at a time when Borowczyk’s stuff is more accessible, I’m sure this will rate higher, though Svankmajer’s performance this time around suggests that there might not be much of a market for brilliantly disturbing stop-motion work.

18. Yantra (Whitneys, 1957) ALSO-RAN. A thousand words about why you should see this:
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23. Screen Play (Purves, 1993) ALSO-RAN. I think I’ve spoken about this in various places, but Gregory: here’s some must-see animation from the 90s.

24. Trade Tattoo (Lye, 1937) ORPHAN. Another film it’s hard to believe all those other prospective parents bypassed when they visited the orphanage. In its use of found footage this is probably the most forward-looking of Lye’s amazing 30s GPO run.

25. Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story (Haynes, 1988) – ORPHAN. This was sort of borderline animation for me, since I’d normally exclude puppetry, but you guys convinced me it was okay! Now I feel dirty.

27. Jeu (Schwizgebel, 2006) ALSO-RAN. Already raved about.

28. Sing Beast Sing (Newland, 1980) ALSO-RAN. Don’t tell me, let me guess: you were fully intending to vote for this but you passed out dead drunk before you could add it to your list.

29. Ali Click (Lefdup / Flash / Eno, 1992) ORPHAN. Well I tried. Who imagined that being locked inside a kaleidoscope and sent flying off around the world could be this cool?

33. Mothlight (Brakhage, 1963) ALSO-RAN. Another borderline case, but I’ve explained how it counts for me as animation. No need to explain why it’s one of the fifty best anythings, though.

36. 25 Ways to Quit Smoking (Plympton, 1989) ALSO-RAN. Is this a generational thing? Plympton quickly became crippled by the shortcuts he took, but at his height in the eighties he was one of the funniest filmmakers on the planet, and those early shorts remain an incredible body of work.

37. Allures (Belson, 1961) ORPHAN. Already defended in the 60s list thread, I believe.

38. Big Bang Big Boom (BLU, 2010) ALSO-RAN. Hey, I added this at the last minute because I thought it had a lot of support (and because it’s awesome). Still an also-ran? It’s not supposed to work that way, guys.

39. Hotel E (Parn, 1992) ALSO-RAN. I guess there was vote-splitting that torpedoed Parn’s already meagre chances. Just see it.

40. Thru the Mirror (Hand, 1936) ALSO-RAN. An arbitrary selection to represent Disney’s golden age. Hardly surprising that it didn’t coincide with everybody else’s arbitrary selections.

41. Light Music (Rhodes, 1975) ORPHAN. A completely predictable orphan, and probably the most interesting borderline case on my list. And the only 3D film on my list too! But this is an actual 3D film, not a goggle-eyed illusion. It’s an interactive light sculpture created by the traces of light beams from two projectors in a smoky room. The raw footage is not necessarily animation (panning / zooming over lines like musical staves), but the effect (not the image projected on each opposite wall, but the weaving, dancing beams in three-dimensional space) is.
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42. The Illusionist (Chomet, 2010) ORPHAN. A bit of a surprise to see this abandoned, but it’s probably my favourite animated feature of the last ten years, primarily for its brilliant evocation of Edinburgh.

43. The Hardest Button to Button (Gondry, 2003) ORPHAN. Already discussed in this thread.

45. Star Guitar (Gondry, 2002) ALSO-RAN. Also already discussed, and a timely reminder that the true potential of CGI has barely been hinted at.

46. Asparagus (Pitt, 1979) ORPHAN. Okay, I’m guessing that this amazing mindfuck is only here among the leftovers because you haven’t seen it yet. Absolutely NSFW!

47. Turning Brown and Torn in Two (Knox, 1983) ORPHAN. A sentimental favourite. Chris Knox saw a couple of Len Lye films and said, “Hey, I can do that!” Which is one of the best uses of Len Lye in any day and age. Here.

49. Interview (Leaf / Soul, 1979) ORPHAN. Already discussed.

50. Videogioco – Loop Experiment (Sansone, 2010) ORPHAN. Already discussed, and the perfect number 50 film: a weird little fragment that explores a completely new kind of animation, more than a hundred years into the form.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#639 Post by Gregory » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:45 pm

Raumlichtkunst is a sore point for me because I'm sure it would be unforgettable, and I've been in at least two different cities where it had just been exhibited, or was about to be, but never at the right time.

If I were compiling a slightly longer list I would easily have voted for more Svankmajer, and I (re-)watched quite a few of his films for this list, including Conspirators of Pleasure and Surviving Life—the latter striking me as far too long, with unengaging characters and a strange blend of the cerebral and the grotesque. I ended up voting only for Alice. I nearly always come away from his films with mixed feelings (I noticed that Terry Gilliam said the same thing!) and it sometimes seems he's thrown everything against the wall to see what sticks. I considered including A Quiet Week in the House, but it just seems like rough sketches cobbled together. I also never would have guessed it would end up an orphan.

Zedz, sign me up for the Fantasia backlash. I don't think anyone is wrong if they enjoy it, but the best I can figure my reasons for disliking it (even having grown up with it), as much as I find the word "pretentious" a much overused and abused term, that's exactly what this is—Walt, more than ever, aspiring to taste and class, wasting the talents of his artists. It was doubtlessly impressive to viewers then who had seen nothing like it and were unfamiliar with the source images appropriated for Fantasia. Comparing the Toccata and Fugue in D minor segment to the Fischinger works already discussed, I can only shake my head at the way his designs were compromised and dumbed down, leaving him to quit the project, apparently finding the work environment "creative process" unbearable.
The film boasts of being all about the greatness of music when all it does is ransack appealing moments from otherwise great compositions to make soundtracks to showy yet never challenging sequences of cute little creatures and dances. The sheer gall of the thing was exemplified by the way Disney gave Stravinsky a Hobson's choice, asking for his blessing for them to use Sacre but also informing him that if he withheld his permission then they would just use it as they saw fit anyway; and the way they not only made cuts and changed the order of the movements, but actually tossed aside the original scenario and even messed around with the instrumentation. Defenders could say that at least it exposed people to the work and maybe they'd go and hear it as it was intended, but does Fantasia really do anything to inspire real appreciation or was it simply exploiting the music and selling short its power to involve the imagination? Worse crimes against art are committed all the time, but the sheer pomposity of Fantasia left it begging to have major holes poked in it.
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#640 Post by knives » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:10 pm

You're going to want to kill me because I only didn't vote for 25 Ways to Quite Smoking because I assumed no one else would.

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#641 Post by swo17 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:21 pm

I voted for three Švankmajer films, all in my top 20. There are plenty other films of his that are listworthy but I guess I had too much other stuff that I wanted to include in my top 50. A Quiet Week is great but my favorite parts of that film (primarily the very beginning and very end) have nothing to do with animation.

I also strongly suspect that Raumlichtkunst would have made my list, but zedz for some reason insists on people only voting for films that they've actually seen!

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#642 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:00 pm

swo17 wrote:I also strongly suspect that Raumlichtkunst would have made my list, but zedz for some reason insists on people only voting for films that they've actually seen!
You'd be in good company-- didn't Rosenbaum vote for a film that doesn't even exist for his 1000 films list?

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#643 Post by YnEoS » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:20 pm

Well here are my also-rans and orphans, I'll do write ups for all my orphans, and any also-rans I feel could use one.

Also Rans

11. Nightangel (Jacques Drouin & Bretislav Pojar, 1986) - I guess everyone voted for Mindscapes over this one. Mindscapes is great, but I think since I had been familiar with the Alexeiff and Parker animation for a while before the list project, and watched the Jacques Drouin right before submitting my list, the mixed modes of animation in this one struck me as being much more interesting.

16. FLCL (Takeshi Ando, Shôji Saeki, Kazuya Tsurumaki & Masahiko Ôtsuka, 2001)
23. Jeu (Georges Schwizgebel, 2006)
26. A Little Phantasy on a 19th-century Painting (Norman McLaren, 1946)
37. Prometheus' Garden (Bruce Bickford, 1988)
43. Tusalava (Len Lye, 1929)
44. The Secret Adventures of Tom Thumb (Dave Borthwick, 1993)
45. Gandahar (Rene Laloux, 1988)

Orphans

2. Time Masters (Rene Laloux, 1982) - I know the animation for this one is the worst of his feature films, but I always enjoyed the storyline of this one the most.

7. Lucía, Luis y el lobo (Niles Atallah, Cristobal Leon & Joaquin Cociña, 2008) - I've written on these earlier in the thread, but this is film is a great example of how much you can do with a really low budget and lots of creativity and work. The charcoal animation plus the stop-motion animation work together really well in these.

8. The Epic of Gilgamesh, or This Unnameable Little Broom (The Brothers Quay, 1987) - I can see why everyone voted for Street of Crocodiles and Rehearsals for Extinct Anatomies (I did too), but this one ranks just as highly for me as one of my 3 favorite Quay Brothers films.

12. Babobilicons (Daina Krumins, 1982) - Didn't expect this one too get any other votes, cause it's difficult to get ahold of, and not very well known, but it's absolutely delightful. Mixes stop-motion animation, time lapse photography of fungus growing, and some really great optical printings effects. No story here, but Daina Krumins creates a really fascinating world.

14. The Vanished World of Gloves (Jiri Barta, 1983) - I was expecting more Jiri Barta love on this list. The idea of a lost world discovered through film history really struck me, and it's really creative execution too.

18. McDull, Prince de la Bun (Toe Yuen, 2004) - Though aimed at kids there's a lot of really great insight into HK society in these, and I think done a lot better than many other kids animations that try for social commentary. The sequel is a significant improvement on the first one.

20. Voices of a Distant Star (Makoto Shinkai, 2003) - Takes a typical anime set up of humans piloting robots vs aliens, but this 25 minute film focuses on a teenage couple separated when the girl goes off to war. They communicate by text messages that take longer and longer to reach each other while the girl travels further out into space, until they're lightyears away. Perhaps a tad over-sentimental in execution, but I saw this on TV when I was younger and watching pretty much purely action anime, and this still made quite an impact on me. Wish I had more time to watch more of Shinkai's films for this list, many of them run in the awkward 20-60 minute range.

24. A Game of Stones (Jan Svankmajer, 1965) - Maybe all the Svankmajer fans should've just agreed on what we were voting for beforehand. I included a lot of his films though.

27. Imprints (Jacques Drouin, 2004) - Similar reasoning to Nightangel.

30. Hors-Jeu (Georges Schwizgebel, 1977) - So I ended up voting for a bunch of Schwizgebel, and I think his later stuff only gets better. But this early one made quite an impact on me because it stay "normal" for quite a while before moving into more experimentation. This was the first Schwizgebel to really draw me in, as I started just appreciating the style of animation, then was really struck when he started changing things up. Although his transformations seem to be the highlight of his work, I really think my favorite of his films are the ones that go on for a while and build a shifting mood.

31. The Club of the Laid Off (Jiri Barta, 1989) - I'm just going to assume people didn't have enough room in their lists to include this one. Otherwise people should go watch the Barta set.

35. L'horloge Magique (Wladyslaw Starewicz, 1928) - Starewicz is one of my absolute favorite animators (Mascot was my #1), this work may not be his best, but it's still pretty incredible. I like the two separate visual styles he creates for the clock/toy world vs the girls imagination.

36. The Adventures of Mark Twain (Will Vinton, 1985) - Okay, so maybe I voted for this film primarily for the Mysterious Stranger scene, but it's still pretty charming otherwise.

39. Fleur de Fougere (Wladyslaw Starewicz, 1949) - Mmmmm more Starewicz....

42. Tulips Shall Grow (George Pal, 1942) - Wow, no other George Pal fans here? I don't like all his films, but his animation is incredible. The war scenes make this one stand out for me in particular.

46. Together in the Weather (George Pal, 1946) - This is probably the George Pal film I have the most fun watching, even though others have better animation.

47. Pom Poko (Isao Takahata, 1994) - Yeah, I haven't watched Grave of Fireflies or Only Yesterday, so I voted for Takahata's Racoons with giant testicles movie...

48. Tubby the Tuba (George Pal, 1947) - Mmmm more Georgle Pal...

49. The Pirate (Jan Bubenícek, 2002) - I'm not as big a fan of a lot of the newer Czech stop-motion stuff that's out there, but this one is a lot of fun.

50. My Life As McDull (Toe Yuen, 2001) - Not as good as the sequel, but still a really great kid's animation.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#644 Post by swo17 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:37 pm

My full list is here. Some select defenses:

5. Spacy
So glad this one squeaked onto the top 100!

12. Danse serpentine (1896)
So I officially voted for the earliest film out of everyone here, which should technically be impossible if Fantasmagorie was the first one ever. And of course, if tinting constitutes animation, then this isn't quite the first animated film either. But it's not strictly the tinting that qualified this one for me, but the way that it interacts with the dancer's movements, creating the illusion of a hovering life force that is constantly evolving from one shape and color to another.

19. Virile Games
Granted, this lacks the profundity of several of Švankmajer's other works, but as a consolation prize it might just be the funniest film ever made. (At least it feels that way while I'm watching it!)

26. Yantra
The picture I'm showing for this film on my list is basically the same as the one that zedz posted earlier, presumably because this film is just a single static shot of a circle of dots. But oh, what dots!

27. There It Is
Rewatching this specifically for purposes of this list, I was surprised at how much less animation there was than I had remembered. (Otherwise, it would have placed higher.) But what little is there (e.g. the spontaneous generation of a chicken) is so innovative and invigorating that I couldn't deny it a spot.

28. Cineblatz
The Jeff Keen BFI set is one of my most prized possessions, and it's frankly hard to pick a single standout from it, but not really actually--a lot of the films aren't really animation, and this one, if only by virtue of being the first film that plays on the BFI set, left quite the lasting first impression on me.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#645 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:07 pm

Zedz, as far as Svankmajer goes, it's true that no individual film placed in the top 20, but he is the fourth highest rated director overall. I think it's pretty clear that it's a case of vote splitting, as is a lot of the higher placement of features over shorts; I mean, of the top ten directors, seven are almost exclusively shot form, two are mixed shorts and features guys from Disney, and the last is Miyazaki, whose work you yourself voted for. In toto, shorts got half again as many votes as features, so it doesn't seem like there was any particular prejudice against them to me.

For Big Bang Big Boom, it juuuust squeaked out of list contention- it has four votes (including mine), but nobody voted for it all that high. The power to get it on the list was in your hands all along...


Also, as someone who voted highly for Fantasia- sure, it's pretentious and a bit condescending in its intent, but I'm not sure that I give a damn. The cumulative effect of the Night on Bald Mountain and Ave Maria sequences is intensely powerful enough to justify a list on their own, and of the rest of the film, the only thing that really doesn't work is the dance of the hours; yeah, both Stravinsky and Fischinger are softened a bit, but they're also put into a relationship with the other parts of the work that gives back as much or more than it takes. I can say absolutely for certain that it does inspire people to seek out classical music, at least in some cases- a flutist friend of mine cites it as her source of inspiration and the origin of her love for Stravinsky- but I also don't see that as being important, nor do I think it need defend itself for ransacking another artform. Throne of Blood and Ran ransack Shakespeare for its best moments to create more powerful imagery- how is that a crime? The originals are still there.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#646 Post by zedz » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:58 pm

Fair point about Svankmajer, and I was artificially limiting his films on my list (same goes for Fischinger).

As for shorts versus features, I'm coming from a position where shorts outweigh features five to one in importance (and historically, I expect the production ratio is even higher in favour of shorts), which is why I feel like the two to one ratio of the vote is skewed. But I'm also coming from the position of seeing shorts almost completely shut out of the decades lists: it's a really powerful bias that's not limited to the realm of animation. If we were doing an experimental film list, I'm sure we'd see a similar privileging of long-form works.

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#647 Post by knives » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:27 pm

That's an unfortunate truth, but at least a healthy showing of shorts made it. I know for documentary I'll be splitting things about 50/50 at the most.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#648 Post by Lowry_Sam » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:31 pm

knives wrote:You're going to want to kill me because I only didn't vote for 25 Ways to Quite Smoking because I assumed no one else would.
Actually that's one of the more memorable ones (which is why I voted for it) as it works well as an anti-smoking PSA too, How To Kiss Your Face & Boom Town being the others I remember best & voted for.

Because of the lack of time, I simply included films that stood out as I remembered them, not because I revisited them after not having seen them for a while. One exception to that is Dumbo which I had a very fond memory as a child, but in revisiting found fairly simplistic & not as good as other classic Disney titles. On the other hand, revisiting Snow White and The Seven Dwarves made me bump it up to the top of the classic Disney heap, not only for the much greater impact it had on pop culture (my favorite being Carol Burnett's parody), but I think all of the music from it stands up much better than in some of the others...and makes it better than many of the others (except maybe Peter Pan) for a more detailed/academic analysis. But it has lead me to suspect that many votes from people are comparing films that they may have only seen as a kid to ones seen as an adult.... I included Charlotte's Web on my list as it was the first movie I ever saw & had a great impact on me at the time, but I suspect if I were to watch it again, it might be lower on my list if at all. So the distribution of Disney films within the list is rather surprising to me (except for Fantasia, since it is also the music that carries it & gives the disc bonus points for working as "background noise" too). The biggest Disney surprise though is that it looks like no one else voted for Destino (the Salvador Dali/Disney collaboration). On the other hand, I'm not surprised by the relative lack of Pixar representation in the list (though I am a little bit by Wall-E coming out on top).

Several of my shorts are also from memory, but as a teen staying up late and watching off-beat cable tv programming like Night Flight and MTV's Liquid Television, so I imagine they are closer in how I'd evaluate them again.

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Re: The Animation List Discussion & Suggestions (Genre Proje

#649 Post by karmajuice » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:20 am

Yeah, Svankmajer's films definitely split votes a lot. I went for Jabberwocky, and I only picked one film per filmmaker.

I'll get into a more thorough breakdown of my also-rans and orphans in a few days; I'm on a road trip right now and don't really have time to dedicate to it. But I'm glad some of the more obscure films on my list managed to place, and hopefully that will encourage some more folks to see them.

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#650 Post by life_boy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:43 am

Sorry zedz: several of your Orphans and Also-Rans were films I would have included had I embraced abstract animation (Trade Tattoo, Yantra) more openly. Instead, I had a huge queue of narrative cartoons I wanted to promote because....I love them and always vote for them in the decades lists but never get them seconded.

Top 10 + Orphans/Also-Rans
1. Pinocchio (Hamilton Luske & Ben Sharpsteen, 1940) #11 overall
2. Magical Maestro (Tex Avery, 1952) ORPHAN -- Oh my goodness. The best of the opera cartoon shorts made by ANYONE is completely left in the dust for the wonderfully-brilliant What's Opera Doc? (my #19) and the fairly middling, in my opinion, Rabbit of Seville. Anyway, Avery throws everyone under the bus for comic effect with a brilliant premise, brilliant execution, and memorable gags. I was surprised how generally nonplussed people seemed to be for Avery, not just in the final voting (I'm glad I didn't put any money on Red Hot Riding Hood cracking the Top 20) but also after my 50's Avery write-ups, where he was basically chastised for comic sadism (hey, what is Bugs Bunny anyway?). Magical Maestro is one of those cartoons I try not to watch too much because I don't want to ever lose that eyes-filled-with-tears, side-hurting feeling of watching this for the first time, the second time, the third time....and so on. Go find this and watch it again. Maybe no one remembers...

3. Toy Story 3 (Lee Unkirch, 2010) #88 overall – Maybe I should just speak up for this astonishing masterpiece of a film that barely made it on the strength of two votes. I have always enjoyed the Toy Story movies but this is the one that most fully realizes the concept, connecting it with some deeper philosophical implications and a frightening climax. It is full, expansive and spectacular. Life is ever changing but what if you never change? There is a deep-seated existential anxiety running through this film as Woody is constantly met with the utilitarian nature of his existence, but, as eternal plastic, he is never able to remove himself from the cycle unless he is willing to cast himself into hell. Finally, he finds solace in accepting his fate as facilitator of childhood imagination, even though he will have to relive many of these same emotions again 10-15 years down the road when Bonnie grows up and leaves him behind. What people say they love about WALL-E is what I love about this. And I don’t love WALL-E.

4. Duck Dodgers of the 24½ Century (Chuck Jones, 1952) #55 overall
5. Red Hot Riding Hood (Tex Avery, 1943) #81 overall
6. The Sinking of the Lusitania (Winsor McCay, 1918) #49 overall
7. Dumbo (Ben Sharpsteen, 1941) #39 overall
8. Swing You Sinners! (Dave Fleischer, 1930) #21 overall
9. Slap Happy Lion (Tex Avery, 1947) ORPHAN -- Clearly my list was unapologetically Avery biased (I had 3 in my top 10). I love pretty much all his films so to sort out the order, I tried to gauge my responses based on an arbitrary internal laugh-o-meter. This rated very high, obviously.

10. Allegretto (Oskar Fischinger, 1936) ALSO-RAN -- My favorite Fischinger and my one real (feeble) bone to the abstract animation group. Sorry. I've seen the Motion Paintings but don't remember them very well and didn't seek them out because I love this film so much and planned on including only one Fischinger from the outset. I've never seen Raumlichtkunst but it sounds doubtful that I ever will have the chance.

17. The Mechanical Monsters (Dave Fleischer, 1941) ALSO-RAN -- Right before submitting my list I thought I should at least watch a couple of Fleischer's Superman cartoons. They both made my list. Total art-deco eye candy.

20. Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (Robert Zemeckis, 1988) ORPHAN -- I'm not sure a live action movie has had more fun with animation as atmosphere, concept, and plot device. Not to mention, it was able to get permission to include characters from Warner Brothers, Disney, Lantz and Flesicher cartoons all on the same screen.

21. Prometheus' Garden (Bruce Bickford, 1988/2008) ALSO-RAN -- A relentless stream-of-consciousness claymation fever dream. I made a pitch for it in the past (2000's list, I believe) and was disappointed at the apathetic response. At least it wasn't a total orphan.

22. Sock-A-Bye Baby (Dave Fleischer, 1934) ORPHAN -- Popeye goes on a rampage to keep a sleeping baby soundly asleep. It is either exactly that or a metaphor for suburban child-worship.

23. If You Spot a Cat Flying Through the Air (Daniel Szczechura, 1971) ORPHAN -- A one-joke movie if there ever was one but I love the joke and the cheap psychedelia. I guess it's too much to expect this to make the 1970's decade list, huh?

24. The Three Caballeros (Norman Ferguson, 1945) ALSO-RAN -- Another bit of Fantasia pile-on: look, I love pieces of Fantasia to death (so much it nearly, nearly charted at the bottom of my list) but I find it completely useless as a feature film, truncated by the dull intros and ending far better than it begins. Any merit it has is in the extraordinary strength of a handful of animated sequences. But that's where The Three Caballeros comes in (thanks for the rec, knives: I re-watched this thanks to you!). To me, it is just as imaginative and inspired as the best sequences of Fantasia, but without the high art pretensions and the clunky midsections. It displays a whimsical surrealism and zany humor, both of which were becoming less common for Disney in the 40's; it really is a movie unlike anything else from the studio. There are great shorts connected to the larger narrative, like the whole Cold-Blooded Penguin bit. Wonderful characters like the Aracuan Bird. Then, there's the sequence where Donald literally turns into sound waves. Absolutely awe-inspiringly brilliant (and funny). Ahhh....Baía!

26. Thru the Mirror (David Hand, 1936) ALSO-RAN -- I picked this as my (somewhat) arbitrary Disney short representative because it is beautifully animated, a fun surrealist excursion and I knew zedz would be voting for it (I'm your biggest fan, zedz!). I generally prefer Disney’s shorts in the 30’s before they get into the heavily character-centric stuff. Even though this is still a Mickey short, it is not nearly as cutesy as many of those will become.

27. Crazy with the Heat (Bob Carlson, 1947) ORPHAN -- Speaking of Disney character shorts: Donald and Goofy are stuck in the desert and experience mirages of an iceberg and a soda shop. Goofy doesn’t pay up for his milkshakes and is subsequently chased by the imaginary soda shop owner as his mirage seems to become real. Generally, Disney’s character cartoons of the 40’s and 50’s are pretty middling at best and frustratingly dull at worst, but this is top form. From the humor to the light surrealism to fun character animation, I think this is the last really good Disney animated short.

28. A Corny Concerto (Robert Clampett, 1943) ALSO-RAN – I'm not surprised the votes went to Wackyland and Piggy Bank Robbery, but this is my favorite Clampett. I love this zany poke at the pretensions of Fantasia: I could watch it over and over again. I love the vulture as angel playing a harp with a balloon helping him float up to heaven. I love Elmer Fudd's whatever-you-call-that-thing-that-rolls-up-that's-not-a-shirt.

31. A Little Western (Witold Giersz, 1960) ORPHAN -- Giersz did several similar cartoons but this takes his self-reflexive minimalism in the funnest direction: as full-on deconstructed western.

33. Lonesome Ghosts (Burt Gillett, 19367) ORPHAN – I think generally the best Disney character cartoons were the ones that featured several of the characters together.

34. Baseball Bugs (Friz Freleng, 1946) ORPHAN – Everything I know about baseball I learned watching this. Consequently, I’m terrible at baseball.

35. Blitz Wolf (Tex Avery, 1942) ORPHAN – I’m not sure why there’s such love for Der Fuehrer’s Face besides it being such an oddity for Disney, but novelty aside I think the real replay value of the nationalistic war-era shorts is found in this rendition of Hitler as a brash yet ostentatiously sly fox speaking daintily out of the side of his mouth. Also, there’s the gag with the pig distracting the bombs by showing them pictures of pinup girls.

39. Music Land (Wilfred Jackson, 1935) ALSO-RAN – I wanted to include one Wilfred Jackson Silly Symphony and I chose this one because it is both clever and beautifully animated.

40. Labyrinth (Jan Lenica, 1963) ALSO-RAN – Poor Jan Lenica.

41. Superman (Dave Fleischer, 1941) ORPHAN – I’ve never connected to the Superman stories either as films or comics so I’m surprised that I enjoyed this so much. It’s trite and sort-of sexist but like I said above for The Mechanical Monsters, pure art-deco eye candy.

42. Little Rural Riding Hood (Tex Avery, 1949) ORPHAN – I love how Avery would eventually set dynamite to every premise he developed and popularized.

43. The Chair (Daniel Szczechura, 1964) ORPHAN – A wonderful allegory for the frustrating reality of democracy.

44. Steamboat Willie (Walt Disney & Ub Iwerks, 1928) ALSO-RAN – Maybe I went a tad overboard with the Disney love, but I do love a lot of what Disney has done so I’m not really ashamed to have a list that reflects that.

45. Media (Zbigniew Rybczynski, 1980) ALSO-RAN – As swo put it, this is deceptively simple yet captivating in its simplicity. Rybczynski was such a brilliantly innovative animator that it felt a shame not to honor him twice on my list (Tango was at my #11 slot).

47. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton & Lee Unkrich, 2003) ALSO-RAN – Pixar is fine overall but this seems like their top drawer feature (apart from the aforementioned Toy Story 3, which I put in a category by itself). Beautiful backdrops, wonderful adventure story, great voice acting, evocative Thomas Newman score. Everything Pixar does well they do really well here.

48. Victory Through Air Power (James Algar, Clyde Geronimi & Jack Kinney, 1943) ORPHAN – Okay, so everything I said about Fantasia being truncated by clunky live-action talking sections is equally true of this weirdo nationalistic torchsong, but I find the whole thing so utterly fascinating that I had to include it. One of the strangest utilizations of Disney’s house style, topped off by that strange climactic battle between octopus and eagle.

49. Presto (Doug Sweetland, 2005) ALSO-RAN – I’m with you in your appreciation for this one, zedz (though not enough to get it a spot at the dance, I guess).

50. Long-Haired Hare (Chuck Jones, 1949) ALSO-RAN – Bringing the opera cartoon cache full circle.

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