1960s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol. 3)

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#576 Post by swo17 » Sun May 26, 2013 8:39 pm

Just to keep all of your expectations in check, a film presently needs to have at least 108 points to make the top 100 (and this figure will surely increase as more votes come in). That's means either really strong support from at least three people, or weak support from a whole lot more than that. For example, the current #70 position has 10 votes, and the current #95 has 7. There's another film that's appeared on 6 lists so far but isn't in the top 100.

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#577 Post by zedz » Sun May 26, 2013 10:08 pm

TMDaines wrote:I never understand why people say I voted for x (and thus imply that they were obliged not to vote for y by the same director). Surely you just vote for the best fifty films, regardless of whether that means they were directed by ten, twenty or fifty different men? Auteur theory running wild.
I think this has come up before, but I can see where people are coming from. There's a large part of this listmaking exercise that's always going to be artificial and arbitrary, and I'd hate to have to swear on a stack of Origin of the Species that every one of the fifty films I select from a particular decade is subjectively better than any other film from that period that I've ever seen. But making a list like this is also to a significant extent a statement of intent, and I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to make my list somewhat representative of what I value about the period. Thus there were a number of 'must haves' I had in mind when making my list (not all of which I ended up having), and something's gotta give! It's much easier to bump a third or fourth film by a beloved filmmaker (Death by Hanging, you're for the drop) or a well-worn classic that really doesn't need one more vote of confidence (thus Psycho gets slashed) than to omit the only film by a desperately undervalued filmmaker like Shadi Abdelsalam.

That said, I ended up with six directors who were represented by two films on my final list: Imamura, Jansco, Oshima, Paradzhanov, Pasolini and Yoshida. And looking at those names, they give a pretty fair indication of the personal importance their work during this period has for me, to the extent that not having them 'over'-represented on my 60s list would feel like a misrepresentation.

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#578 Post by swo17 » Sun May 26, 2013 10:21 pm

When a decade is really crowded, I tend to have a hard time making room for multiple films, from a single director or otherwise, that I like for very similar reasons, if only to ensure that my list is representative of as many of my interests as possible. That being said, I still had room this time for four films by Pasolini, each of which bring pleasure to a different part of my brain, even if they are mostly all recognizable as the work of the same director. Same goes for four other directors that made my list with two films each.

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#579 Post by YnEoS » Sun May 26, 2013 10:35 pm

Just submitted my list, I didn't exactly go right up to the deadline, but I was so worn out after my last minute Eros + Massacre and L'amour Fou viewings, that I didn't think I would be able to give any other films my full attention.

Thanks to this post countries game everyone's playing, I'm pretty sure my #1 vote has gone to waste, but oh well. I'll still play anyways since it's almost list time.

France - 13
Japan - 8
Czechoslovakia - 7
Italy - 5
USSR - 4
USA - 3
Hong Kong - 2
Hungary - 2
Canada - 1
Chile - 1
Denmark - 1
India - 1
Sweden - 1
UK - 1


Also: On the topic on why spread you votes between different directors. I find in addition to the reasons already mentioned, I also find it easier to compare films made by a same director than films made by different directors. So when I need to knock a film off, it's easier to find a director with more than 1 film and think "well this film is great, but not quite as great as their other film", than it is to knock off a film by a director with only 1 film on my list. Though quite a few directors have several films I consider essential, so I have no problem giving multiple votes to a particular director I like.
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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#580 Post by swo17 » Sun May 26, 2013 10:59 pm

It never even occurred to me that Ruiz was making films this early on. You should have spoken up about it sooner!

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#581 Post by YnEoS » Sun May 26, 2013 11:04 pm

I didn't put together preliminary list until very recently, so I wasn't even completely sure what I was voting for. Ah well :/

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#582 Post by swo17 » Sun May 26, 2013 11:32 pm

In other big(?) news, the #1 country position, which stayed constant with one country through the first 33 lists submitted, has just gone to someone else.

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#583 Post by zedz » Mon May 27, 2013 12:06 am

Congratulations, Chad!

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#584 Post by TMDaines » Mon May 27, 2013 10:33 am

swo17 wrote:
TMDaines wrote:Did you watch these in Russian or Ukrainian, swo? Those screenshots of Ivan look like they were cropped from Scope too.

Have you seen Annychka (Ivchenko - 1968), swo? If you like Ukrainian Poetic Cinema on the whole, then I think you'll like that. It's probably going to make my list.
I wouldn't know the difference, but supposedly it was in Russian. And probably cropped. And generally looking like pixelized VHS. That's great to hear that there's a better source. (Before I made my initial post, I searched the forum for any mention of Ilyenko but it didn't turn up your variant spelling.)

Haven't seen the Ivchenko and I don't see where it might be available anywhere. EDIT: I see now it's on the Mykolaychuk set from Ukraine, but I'm unfortunately not going to have a chance to get that before the deadline.
This is what I have for Ivan:
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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#585 Post by swo17 » Mon May 27, 2013 10:45 am

That looks gorgeous, a great improvement. And now for the results...

Thanks again to everyone for your participation in this latest, longest round of the lists project! I'll be posting the results shortly in the next three posts. Here again is a guide to what the figures listed after each film represent, each separated with a slash mark:

1. Total points (50 for each #1 placement, 49 for each #2, etc.)
2. Number of lists the film appeared on (out of 35 submitted). If the film appeared in anyone's top 10, the number of top 10 appearances is also denoted in parentheses.
3. Highest placement of the film on any one list. If more than one person ranked the film this high, this is also denoted in parentheses.
4. Change in position from the 2007 list, with movements of 10 or more highlighted.

So for example, the 321/9(4)/1(x2)/+5 shown for The Wild Bunch means that it scored 321 points and appeared on 9 lists (and four top 10s), with two people ranking it as high as #1. The film also moved up 5 positions from its placement on the 2007 list.

For the list of orphans, only figure #3 is displayed (the highest rank, not the score given).

The 1970s thread will start in the next day or so. In the meantime, feel free to discuss the results in this thread, or to defend your poor faring favorites here.

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#586 Post by swo17 » Mon May 27, 2013 10:45 am

The 1960s List

01. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968) 682/20(8)/1(x3)/+5
02. Persona (Ingmar Bergman, 1966) 668/20(9)/3(x4)/+6
03. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960) 619/18(9)/1/+4
04. 8½ (Federico Fellini, 1963) 557/14(9)/1(x2)/-3
05. Andrei Rublyov (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1966) 551/17(8)/1/--
06. Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone, 1968) 481/13(8)/2/+8
07. The Battle of Algiers (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1965) 479/13(5)/1/+10
08. L'avventura (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1960) 472/14(5)/2/-5
09. Play Time (Jacques Tati, 1967) 471/14(5)/2(x3)/-5
10. The Apartment (Billy Wilder, 1960) 465/13(8)/1/+15
11. Last Year at Marienbad (Alain Resnais, 1961) 463/16(5)/1/+1
12. La dolce vita (Federico Fellini, 1960) 458/14(6)/2/-3
13. L'eclisse (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1962) 451/16(4)/2/-11
14. The Exterminating Angel (Luis Buñuel, 1962) 430/12(5)/2/+15
15. Contempt (Jean-Luc Godard, 1963) 412/12(5)/1/-2
16. Woman in the Dunes (Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1964) 408/13(3)/2(x2)/+8
17. Breathless (Jean-Luc Godard, 1960) 392/12(4)/1(x2)/+2
18. Pierrot le fou (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965) 384/12(6)/2(x2)/+58
(tie) Le Samouraï (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1967) 384/14(3)/4/-8
20. High and Low (Akira Kurosawa, 1963) 378/13(3)/1/+51
21. Dr. Strangelove (Stanley Kubrick, 1964) 366/14(2)/2/+1
22. Red Desert (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1964) 359/10(3)/7/+73
23. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (John Ford, 1962) 354/11(3)/3/-3
24. The Birds (Alfred Hitchcock, 1963) 346/10(2)/1/+6
25. Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson, 1966) 325/9(3)/3/-14
26. The Wild Bunch (Sam Peckinpah, 1969) 321/9(4)/1(x2)/+5
27. Winter Light (Ingmar Bergman, 1962) 311/10(1)/3/-9
28. Marketa Lazarová (František Vláčil, 1967) 302/9(4)/1/New
29. Rosemary's Baby (Roman Polański, 1968) 297/9(3)/3/+70
(tie) Harakiri (Masaki Kobayashi, 1962) 297/10(2)/7/-1
31. Seconds (John Frankenheimer, 1966) 295/8(4)/2/+12
32. The Innocents (Jack Clayton, 1961) 291/11(1)/9/+60
33. My Night at Maud's (Eric Rohmer, 1969) 286/11(3)/2/+34
34. Army of Shadows (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1969) 276/9(2)/1/-1
35. La Jetée (Chris Marker, 1962) 262/10(3)/4/-2
36. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Sergio Leone, 1966) 257/8(3)/3/-9
37. Point Blank (John Boorman, 1967) 256/9(2)/6/+30
(tie) Week End (Jean-Luc Godard, 1967) 256/12(1)/1/-2
39. The Graduate (Mike Nichols, 1967) 255/9(3)/3(x2)/-7
40. Le Trou (Jacques Becker, 1960) 246/10(2)/7/+11
41. Daisies (Věra Chytilová, 1966) 243/8(2)/8(x2)/+47
42. The Young Girls of Rochefort (Jacques Demy, 1967) 239/8(3)/6/New
43. The Leopard (Luchino Visconti, 1963) 238/8(3)/1/-6
44. Belle de jour (Luis Buñuel, 1967) 231/13(1)/6/+5
45. An Autumn Afternoon (Yasujirō Ozu, 1962) 229/6(3)/1(x2)/New
46. The Silence (Ingmar Bergman, 1963) 227/10(1)/9/+26
47. Peeping Tom (Michael Powell, 1960) 223/8(1)/4/+1
48. Night of the Living Dead (George Romero, 1968) 217/9(2)/6/+45
49. The Manchurian Candidate (John Frankenheimer, 1962) 214/6(2)/8/+41
(tie) Z (Costa-Gavras, 1969) 214/8(3)/2/+73
51. The Cremator (Juraj Herz, 1969) 212/7(1)/4/+74
52. Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors (Sergei Parajanov, 1964) 211/6(3)/2/+6
53. Yearning (Mikio Naruse, 1964) 210/6(3)/5/New
54. The Red and the White (Miklós Jancsó, 1967) 205/7(2)/5/+43
55. I Am Cuba (Mikhail Kalatozov, 1964) 203/9/17/-8
56. Charulata (Satyajit Ray, 1964) 202/8(3)/5/+26
(tie) Bonnie and Clyde (Arthur Penn, 1967) 202/10/12/+49
58. Repulsion (Roman Polański, 1965) 200/7(2)/6/+11
59. Scorpio Rising (Kenneth Anger, 1964) 194/9/12/-14
60. Lawrence of Arabia (David Lean, 1962) 193/5(3)/2/-37
(tie) Branded to Kill (Seijun Suzuki, 1967) 193/8(2)/8/+122
(tie) Ivan's Childhood (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1962) 193/9/13/+18
63. The Color of Pomegranates (Sergei Parajanov, 1969) 192/6(3)/1/-26
64. Through a Glass Darkly (Ingmar Bergman, 1961) 187/9(1)/7/-11
65. Viridiana (Luis Buñuel, 1961) 186/7(2)/3(x2)/-5
66. Medea (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1969) 181/5(2)/5/+125
67. Death by Hanging (Nagisa Ōshima, 1968) 179/5(2)/3/New
(tie) Closely Watched Trains (Jiří Menzel, 1966) 179/7/18/+61
69. Cléo from 5 to 7 (Agnès Varda, 1961) 178/12/14/-54
70. Eros + Massacre (Yoshishige Yoshida, 1969) 173/6(1)/4/-16
(tie) Rocco and His Brothers (Luchino Visconti, 1960) 173/7(1)/6/-14
72. Vivre sa vie (Jean-Luc Godard, 1963) 168/5(1)/5/-51
73. Tokyo Olympiad (Kon Ichikawa, 1965) 167/6/13/+45
(tie) The Round-Up (Miklós Jancsó, 1965) 167/8(1)/10/+42
75. Kwaidan (Masaki Kobayashi, 1964) 164/5(2)/7/-19
(tie) Blow-Up (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1966) 164/5(1)/4/-33
77. The Hustler (Robert Rossen, 1961) 161/9/23/+52
78. The Naked Kiss (Samuel Fuller, 1964) 159/7/17/+33
79. Petulia (Richard Lester, 1968) 155/5(1)/6/+10
80. Profound Desires of the Gods (Shōhei Imamura, 1968) 154/5(1)/7/New
81. Inferno of First Love (Susumu Hani, 1968) 152/5(2)/10(x2)/+22
82. Divorce Italian Style (Pietro Germi, 1961) 150/5(1)/2/+55
(tie) Diary of a Shinjuku Thief (Nagisa Ōshima, 1969) 150/5(2)/10(x2)/-22
84. The Trial (Orson Welles, 1963) 148/6(1)/4/-32
(tie) Jules et Jim (François Truffaut, 1961) 148/7(1)/5/-68
86. The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (Jacques Demy, 1964) 140/4(2)/7/-60
87. Gertrud (Carl Dreyer, 1964) 139/6(1)/9/-21
88. Faces (John Cassavetes, 1968) 138/5(1)/5/-48
89. Band of Outsiders (Jean-Luc Godard, 1964) 136/6/12/-35
90. Marnie (Alfred Hitchcock, 1964) 135/6(1)/1/+56
91. Eyes Without a Face (Georges Franju, 1960) 133/5(2)/1/+47
92. A Report on the Party and Guests (Jan Němec, 1966) 129/4(1)/3/+44
93. Pretty Poison (Noel Black, 1968) 127/4/13/New
94. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (Mike Nichols, 1966) 126/4/15/-13
(tie) Shock Corridor (Samuel Fuller, 1963) 126/6/17/--
96. Les Bonnes Femmes (Claude Chabrol, 1960) 125/4(1)/10/+12
(tie) La Collectionneuse (Eric Rohmer, 1966) 125/6(1)/4/+88
98. The Fire Within (Louis Malle, 1963) 124/3(2)/5(x2)/+66
99. Porcile (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1969) 123/3(2)/3/New
(tie) Shame (Ingmar Bergman, 1968) 123/6(1)/9/-40


Top Directors

Jean-Luc Godard (13 films, 1983 points)
Ingmar Bergman (9 films, 1761 points)
Michelangelo Antonioni (5 films, 1502 points)
Stanley Kubrick (4 films, 1160 points)
Federico Fellini (4 films, 1150 points)
Alfred Hitchcock (3 films, 1100 points)
Luis Buñuel (6 films, 999 points)
Jean-Pierre Melville (5 films, 767 points)
Nagisa Ōshima (10 films, 758 points)
Sergio Leone (3 films, 751 points)

Andrei Tarkovsky (2 films, 744 points)
Pier Paolo Pasolini (9 films, 710 points)
Akira Kurosawa (5 films, 661 points)
Roman Polański (4 films, 614 points)
Gillo Pontecorvo (2 films, 557 points)
Hiroshi Teshigahara (3 films, 554 points)
Billy Wilder (2 films, 549 points)
Shōhei Imamura (6 films, 532 points)
John Frankenheimer (2 films, 509 points)
Jacques Demy (3 films, 499 points)

John Ford (3 films, 483 points)
Alain Resnais (2 films, 475 points)
Jacques Tati (1 film, 471 points)
Masaki Kobayashi (3 films, 467 points)
Luchino Visconti (4 films, 460 points)
Eric Rohmer (3 films, 443 points)
Sam Peckinpah (3 films, 414 points)
Robert Bresson (4 films, 410 points)
Sergei Parajanov (2 films, 403 points)
Miklós Jancsó (3 films, 399 points)

Satyajit Ray (4 films, 391 points)
Mike Nichols (2 films, 381 points)
Mikio Naruse (5 films, 380 points)
Samuel Fuller (3 films, 379 points)
François Truffaut (6 films, 375 points)
Yasujirō Ozu (3 films, 356 points)
Claude Chabrol (4 films, 339 points)
František Vláčil (2 films, 338 points)
Jack Clayton (3 films, 326 points)
Arthur Penn (5 films, 314 points)

Richard Lester (4 films, 294 points)
Agnès Varda (2 films, 280 points)
Chris Marker (1 film, 262 points)
Yoshishige Yoshida (3 films, 262 points)
Michael Powell (2 films, 261 points)
John Boorman (2 films, 257 points)
Kon Ichikawa (4 films, 257 points)
Orson Welles (2 films, 255 points)
Robert Rossen (2 films, 251 points)
Mikhail Kalatozov (2 films, 250 points)


Top Countries

France (116 films, 26% of points)
USA (175 films, 25.1% of points)
Italy (86 films, 22.3% of points)
Japan (71 films, 12.4% of points)
UK (61 films, 8.8% of points)
USSR (17 films, 4.3% of points)
Sweden (12 films, 4.1% of points)
Czechoslovakia (31 films, 4.1% of points)
West Germany (21 films, 2.6% of points)
Spain (12 films, 2.1% of points)

Mexico (4 films, 1.3% of points)
Cuba (7 films, 1.1% of points)
Algeria (1 film, 1.1% of points)
India (7 films, 1% of points)
Poland (8 films, 1% of points)
Hungary (4 films, 0.9% of points)
Canada (11 films, 0.9% of points)
Brazil (10 films, 0.6% of points)
Yugoslavia (7 films, 0.6% of points)
East Germany (8 films, 0.5% of points)

Iran (2 films, 0.4% of points)
Switzerland (2 films, 0.3% of points)
Denmark (1 film, 0.3% of points)
Hong Kong (3 films, 0.3% of points)
Senegal (1 film, 0.2% of points)
Argentina (2 films, 0.2% of points)
China (3 films, 0.2% of points)
Vietnam (1 film, 0.1% of points)
Chile (1 film, 0.1% of points)
Belgium (2 films, 0.1% of points)

South Africa (1 film, 0.1% of points)
Austria (1 film, 0.1% of points)
South Korea (2 films, 0.1% of points)
Egypt (2 films, <0.1% of points)
Bulgaria (1 film, <0.1% of points)
Greece (2 films, <0.1% of points)
Turkey (1 film, <0.1% of points)
Holland (1 film, <0.1% of points)
Morocco (1 film, <0.1% of points)
Bolivia (1 film, <0.1% of points)

Taiwan (1 film, <0.1% of points)


Results by Year

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Casualties from the 2007 List

36. Red Beard (now an also-ran)
37. Il posto (now an also-ran)
41. The Face of Another (now an also-ran)
44. When a Woman Ascends the Stairs (now an also-ran)
46. Yojimbo (now an also-ran)
50. Il Vangelo secondo Matteo (now an also-ran)
55. If.... (now an also-ran)
62. Mouchette (now an also-ran)
63. Shoot the Piano Player (now an also-ran)
63. Zazie dans le métro (now an also-ran)
65. Alphaville (now an also-ran)
69. A Hard Day's Night (now an also-ran)
72. La Chinoise (now an orphan)
74. Chimes at Midnight (now an also-ran)
75. Onibaba (now an also-ran)
76. Salvatore Giuliano (now an also-ran)
78. An Actor's Revenge (now an also-ran)
80. I fidanzati (now an also-ran)
83. La notte (now an also-ran)
84. A Woman Is a Woman (now an also-ran)
84. Lola (now an also-ran)
86. Funeral Parade of Roses (now an also-ran)
87. Late Autumn (now an also-ran)
91. The House Is Black (now an also-ran)
96. Signs of Life (now an also-ran)
97. Sanjuro (now an also-ran)
99. Before the Revolution (now an orphan)

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#587 Post by swo17 » Mon May 27, 2013 10:46 am

Also-Rans

Lola (Jacques Demy, 1961) 120/4(1)/10/-17
I fidanzati (Ermanno Olmi, 1963) 120/6(1)/7/-21
The Insect Woman (Shōhei Imamura, 1963) 118/5/17/New
The Virgin Spring (Ingmar Bergman, 1960) 117/5/18(x2)/+63
Targets (Peter Bogdanovich, 1968) 117/6(1)/8/+19
Black God, White Devil (Glauber Rocha, 1964) 116/6(1)/8/+1
The Face of Another (Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1966) 114/4(1)/6/-66
Zazie dans le métro (Louis Malle, 1960) 113/3(2)/5(x2)/-45
Advise & Consent (Otto Preminger, 1962) 110/4(1)/1/+85
Fuego en Castilla (José Val del Omar, 1961) 110/3(1)/8/New

Il Vangelo secondo Matteo (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1964) 110/7/19(x2)/-59
Knife in the Water (Roman Polański, 1962) 109/5/19/+5
Pale Flower (Masahiro Shinoda, 1964) 108/3/11/New
Violence at Noon (Nagisa Ōshima, 1966) 107/5(1)/5/-1
Black Girl (Ousmane Sembene, 1966) 107/4(1)/7/New
Chimes at Midnight (Orson Welles, 1966) 107/6/17/-40
Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 1968) 106/5(1)/3/New
Yesterday Girl (Alexander Kluge, 1966) 106/4/12/New
Barrier (Jerzy Skolimowski, 1966) 105/4/17/New
Come Drink with Me (King Hu, 1966) 103/3(1)/7/New

Accattone (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1961) 103/5/23/+39
Le Bonheur (Agnès Varda, 1965) 102/3(1)/8/New
When a Woman Ascends the Stairs (Mikio Naruse, 1960) 102/6(1)/4/-78
The Great Silence (Sergio Corbucci, 1968) 102/5/11/New
Double Suicide (Masahiro Shinoda, 1969) 102/6/16/-16
7 Women (John Ford, 1966) 101/3(1)/1/New
Trace of Stones (Frank Beyer, 1966) 101/3(1)/4/New
The Unfaithful Wife (Claude Chabrol, 1969) 101/4(1)/9/New
Simon of the Desert (Luis Buñuel, 1965) 101/5(1)/4/+4
If.... (Lindsay Anderson, 1968) 98/3(1)/5/-75

Juliet of the Spirits (Federico Fellini, 1965) 98/3/15/-3
Kes (Ken Loach, 1969) 97/3(1)/2/New
El verdugo (Luis García Berlanga, 1963) 95/3(1)/5/New
The Goddess (Satyajit Ray, 1960) 95/3(1)/6/New
The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner (Tony Richardson, 1962) 95/4(1)/9/New
Pigs and Battleships (Shōhei Imamura, 1961) 95/5(1)/6/New
The Sword of Doom (Kihachi Okamoto, 1966) 94/3(1)/6/New
Underworld U.S.A. (Samuel Fuller, 1961) 94/4(1)/6/New
Diamonds of the Night (Jan Němec, 1964) 93/3(1)/7/New
Il posto (Ermanno Olmi, 1961) 92/5(1)/2/-103

Paris nous appartient (Jacques Rivette, 1960) 92/3/12/+1
Red Beard (Akira Kurosawa, 1965) 91/2(2)/3/-106
The Servant (Joseph Losey, 1963) 91/3(1)/8/New
Three Resurrected Drunkards (Nagisa Ōshima, 1968) 91/3(1)/9/New
Judex (Georges Franju, 1963) 90/3(2)/7/New
Lilith (Robert Rossen, 1964) 90/3/15/New
The Cow (Dariush Mehrjui, 1969) 86/2(2)/7/New
The Big City (Satyajit Ray, 1963) 86/3/11/New
Teorema (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1968) 85/3/11/-6
Léon Morin, Priest (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1961) 85/3/13/New

The Pornographers (Shōhei Imamura, 1966) 85/3/14/-48
One, Two, Three (Billy Wilder, 1961) 84/3(1)/5/-13
L'Enfance nue (Maurice Pialat, 1968) 83/3(1)/3/New
L'Amour fou (Jacques Rivette, 1968) 83/4/15/New
Signs of Life (Werner Herzog, 1968) 82/2(1)/1/-59
Boy (Nagisa Ōshima, 1969) 82/6/21/+40
Memories of Underdevelopment (Tomás Gutiérrez Alea, 1968) 81/4/15/New
Hour of the Wolf (Ingmar Bergman, 1967) 80/3(1)/6/-48
Death of a Bureaucrat (Tomás Gutiérrez Alea, 1966) 80/3/14/New
The House Is Black (Forough Farrokhzād, 1963) 80/4(1)/9/-67

Lolita (Stanley Kubrick, 1962) 79/2(1)/9/-40
Shoot the Piano Player (François Truffaut, 1960) 79/3/12/-98
Charade (Stanley Donen, 1963) 79/4/22/+15
Burn! (Gillo Pontecorvo, 1969) 78/3(1)/10/New
Carnival of Souls (Herk Harvey, 1962) 77/4(1)/2/+23
A Hard Day's Night (Richard Lester, 1964) 77/4(1)/3/-96
Accident (Joseph Losey, 1967) 77/3/12/New
Funeral Parade of Roses (Toshio Matsumoto, 1969) 77/3/13/-79
Stairs (Stefan Schabenbeck, 1969) 76/2(1)/4/New
The Firemen's Ball (Miloš Forman, 1967) 76/4/14/+18

Late Autumn (Yasujirō Ozu, 1960) 76/4/19/-82
El extraño viaje (Fernando Fernán Gómez, 1964) 74/2(1)/1/New
This Man Must Die (Claude Chabrol, 1969) 74/3(1)/8/New
Onibaba (Kaneto Shindō, 1964) 74/6/29/-97
To Kill a Mockingbird (Robert Mulligan, 1962) 73/2(1)/6/-21
Sundays and Cybèle (Serge Bourguignon, 1962) 71/2(1)/1/New
Yojimbo (Akira Kurosawa, 1961) 71/4/23/-130
The Testament of Orpheus (Jean Cocteau, 1960) 70/2(1)/9/New
The Taking of Power by Louis XIV (Roberto Rossellini, 1966) 69/2(1)/6/New
Il sorpasso (Dino Risi, 1963) 69/3(1)/5/New

Medium Cool (Haskell Wexler, 1969) 69/3/13/-6
Hamlet (Grigori Kozintsev, 1964) 68/3(1)/2/New
The Eve of Ivan Kupala (Yuri Ilyenko, 1968) 66/3/25/New
Two Stage Sisters (Xie Jin, 1964) 65/2/11/New
Katzelmacher (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1969) 64/2(1)/2/New
Batman (Leslie Martinson, 1966) 64/2(1)/5/New
Titicut Follies (Frederick Wiseman, 1967) 64/2(1)/9/New
Ride the High Country (Sam Peckinpah, 1962) 64/3(1)/8/New
In Cold Blood (Richard Brooks, 1967) 64/3/12/-8
The Bad Sleep Well (Akira Kurosawa, 1960) 63/2/11/-81

Dog Star Man (Stan Brakhage, 1962-64) 63/3/17/New
A Fugitive from the Past (Tomu Uchida, 1965) 62/3(1)/7/New
The Hour of the Furnaces (Fernando Solanas & Octavio Getino, 1968) 62/2/16/New
Dillinger Is Dead (Marco Ferreri, 1969) 62/2/16/New
Lord of the Flies (Peter Brook, 1963) 62/3/14/New
Salesman (Albert & David Maysles et al., 1968) 61/2(1)/3/-70
Yoyo (Pierre Étaix, 1965) 61/2(1)/7/New
The Misfits (John Huston, 1961) 61/2/16/-4
David Holzman's Diary (Jim McBride, 1967) 60/3/20/New
Nothing But a Man (Michael Roemer, 1964) 60/3/23/New

A Woman Is a Woman (Jean-Luc Godard, 1961) 59/3/23/-117
Billy Liar (John Schlesinger, 1963) 59/4/31/-31
Sanjuro (Akira Kurosawa, 1962) 58/2/12/-106
An Untitled Film (David Gladwell, 1964) 58/2/17/New
Now (Santiago Álvarez, 1965) 57/2/19/New
Barren Lives (Nelson Pereira Dos Santos, 1963) 57/2/21/New
Red Angel (Yasuzō Masumura, 1966) 57/3/15/New
La Religieuse (Jacques Rivette, 1966) 57/4/27/New
Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (Karel Reisz, 1960) 56/2(1)/3/-13
The Affair (Yoshishige Yoshida, 1967) 56/2/11/New

La notte (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1961) 56/3/21/-126
Il bell'Antonio (Mauro Bolognini, 1960) 55/2/17/New
7362 (Pat O'Neill, 1967) 55/2/21/New
The Saragossa Manuscript (Wojciech Has, 1964) 55/3/25/-70
Wavelength (Michael Snow, 1967) 54/2/14/-103
Hatari! (Howard Hawks, 1962) 54/2/24(x2)/New
La ragazza con la valigia (Valerio Zurlini, 1961) 52/2(1)/10/New
17th Parallel: Vietnam at War (Joris & Marceline Ivens, 1968) 52/2/13/New
Take the Money and Run (Woody Allen, 1969) 52/3/32/-57
The End of Summer (Yasujirō Ozu, 1961) 51/3/13/New

Young Törless (Volker Schlöndorff, 1966) 50/2/16/New
Die Parallelstrasse (Ferdinand Khittl, 1962) 49/2(1)/8/New
Joseph Kilian (Pavel Juráček & Jan Schmidt, 1965) 49/2/16/New
Innocence Unprotected (Dušan Makavejev, 1968) 49/3/20/New
I Knew Her Well (Antonio Pietrangeli, 1965) 49/3/28/New
The Hawks and the Sparrows (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1966) 48/2(1)/6/New
This Sporting Life (Lindsay Anderson, 1963) 48/2(1)/7/New
Japanese Summer: Double Suicide (Nagisa Ōshima, 1967) 48/2/12/New
The Collector (William Wyler, 1965) 48/2/26/New
In Harm's Way (Otto Preminger, 1965) 47/2/24/New

Fists in the Pocket (Marco Bellocchio, 1965) 47/2/27/-61
Letter Never Sent (Mikhail Kalatozov, 1960) 47/3/28/New
Fahrenheit 451 (François Truffaut, 1966) 46/2(1)/7/New
I Was Nineteen (Konrad Wolf, 1968) 46/3/12/New
Diary of a Chambermaid (Luis Buñuel, 1964) 46/3/15/-98
An Actor's Revenge (Kon Ichikawa, 1963) 46/3/19/-155
Walden (Jonas Mekas, 1969) 45/3/11/New
Blind Beast (Yasuzō Masumura, 1969) 45/3/22/New
Love Affair, or the Case of the Missing Switchboard Operator (Dušan Makavejev, 1967) 45/3/26/New
Night and Fog in Japan (Nagisa Ōshima, 1960) 44/2/13/New

Mothlight (Stan Brakhage, 1963) 44/2/23/-57
Live for Life (Claude Lelouch, 1967) 44/2/25/New
The Passion of Anna (Ingmar Bergman, 1969) 44/2/27/-106
Masculin Feminin (Jean-Luc Godard, 1966) 44/3/29/-75
The Dirty Dozen (Robert Aldrich, 1967) 43/2/17/New
In the Heat of the Night (Norman Jewison, 1967) 43/2/21/New
The Rope and the Colt (Robert Hossein, 1969) 43/2/25/New
Gare du Nord (Jean Rouch, 1965) 42/2/22/New
A Man Vanishes (Shōhei Imamura, 1967) 42/3/23/-92
The Hill (Sidney Lumet, 1965) 42/2/24/New

Black Sunday (Mario Bava, 1960) 41/2/20/-71
They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (Sydney Pollack, 1969) 40/2/13/New
Warrendale (Allan King, 1967) 40/2/17/New
Les Biches (Claude Chabrol, 1968) 39/2/19/New
Wings (Larisa Shepitko, 1966) 39/4/33/New
Elmer Gantry (Richard Brooks, 1960) 39/3/36/New
Herzog Blaubarts Burg (Michael Powell, 1963) 38/2/18/New
Rachel, Rachel (Paul Newman, 1968) 38/2/19/New
Le Grand Amour (Pierre Étaix, 1969) 38/2/20/New
Two for the Road (Stanley Donen, 1967) 38/3/33/New

Fellini Satyricon (Federico Fellini, 1969) 37/3/18/-137
The Flat (Jan Švankmajer, 1968) 36/2/18/New
The Girls (Mai Zetterling, 1968) 36/2/26/New
Last Summer (Frank Perry, 1969) 36/2/30/New
The Professionals (Richard Brooks, 1966) 34/2/28/New
Antoine et Colette (François Truffaut, 1962) 33/2/20/-114
Spartacus (Stanley Kubrick, 1960) 33/2/29/New
Mary Poppins (Robert Stevenson, 1964) 33/2/31/New
Culloden (Peter Watkins, 1964) 32/2/22/New
Midnight Cowboy (John Schlesinger, 1969) 32/2/23/-97

A Shot in the Dark (Blake Edwards, 1964) 31/2/32/New
The Shooting (Monte Hellman, 1966) 31/2/32/New
Mouchette (Robert Bresson, 1966) 31/3/33/-209
The Cloud-Capped Star (Ritwik Ghatak, 1960) 30/2/32/New
Two or Three Things I Know About Her (Jean-Luc Godard, 1966) 30/2/34/-141
The Party (Blake Edwards, 1968) 30/2/36(x2)/New
The Naked Island (Kaneto Shindō, 1960) 28/2/26/-122
Passenger (Andrzej Munk & Witold Lesiewicz, 1963) 27/2/25/New
Days of Wine and Roses (Blake Edwards, 1962) 26/2/28/New
Stolen Kisses (François Truffaut, 1968) 26/2/31/-148

The Odd Couple (Gene Saks, 1968) 24/2/28/New
The War Game (Peter Watkins, 1965) 23/2/29/-104
Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (Russ Meyer, 1966) 23/2/36/-119
Salvatore Giuliano (Francesco Rosi, 1961) 23/2/39/-206
Alphaville (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965) 21/2/33/-220
Le Doulos (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1962) 18/2/39/-141
The Pink Panther (Blake Edwards, 1963) 16/2/37/New
The Producers (Mel Brooks, 1968) 16/3/44/New
Baron Prásil (Karel Zeman, 1961) 15/2/40/New
Witchfinder General (Michael Reeves, 1968) 15/2/41/-187

Inside Daisy Clover (Robert Mulligan, 1965) 14/2/38/New
Loves of a Blonde (Miloš Forman, 1965) 12/2/41/-176
The Night of Counting the Years (Shadi Abdel Salam, 1969) 12/2/41/New
Tokyo Drifter (Seijun Suzuki, 1966) 10/2/43/-136
The Fearless Vampire Killers (Roman Polański, 1967) 8/2/45/New
Fail-Safe (Sidney Lumet, 1964) 3/2/49/New

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions

#588 Post by swo17 » Mon May 27, 2013 10:47 am

Orphans

NOTE: The number listed for each film represents the ranking it received, not the number of points.

À tout prendre (Claude Jutra, 1964) 27
Adieu Philippine (Jacques Rozier, 1962) 8
Alice's Restaurant (Arthur Penn, 1969) 47
Alyonka (Boris Barnet, 1961) 13
The Americanization of Emily (Arthur Hiller, 1964) 34
L'amour existe (Maurice Pialat, 1960) 31
And This Is Free (Mike Shea, 1965) 20
Annychka (Boris Ivchenko, 1968) 41
Arnulf Rainer (Peter Kubelka, 1960) 10
As Long as You've Got Your Health (Pierre Étaix, 1966) 29
Ashima (Qiong Liu, 1964) 38
Assault on the Pay Train (Roberto Farias, 1962) 43
Au coeur de la vie (Robert Enrico, 1963) 21

The Bakery Girl of Monceau (Eric Rohmer, 1963) 19
Barbarella (Roger Vadim, 1968) 20
Barravento (Glauber Rocha, 1962) 30
Bedtime Story (Ralph Levy, 1964) 27
Before the Revolution (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1964) 30
Before This Night Is Over (Peter Solan, 1966) 46
Being Two Isn't Easy (Kon Ichikawa, 1962) 49
A Big Hand for the Little Lady (Fielder Cook, 1966) 47
Birds, Orphans and Fools (Juraj Jakubisko, 1969) 16
Black Sun (Koreyoshi Kurahara, 1964) 49
Black Wind (Servando González, 1965) 18
Blood of the Condor (Jorge Sanjinés, 1969) 47
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice (Paul Mazursky, 1969) 39
Born in '45 (Jürgen Böttcher, 1965) 33
The Boxer and Death (Peter Solan, 1963) 24
A Boy Named Charlie Brown (Bill Melendez, 1969) 27
Breakaway (Bruce Conner, 1966) 7
Breakfast at Tiffany's (Blake Edwards, 1961) 14
Brief Encounters (Kira Muratova, 1967) 42
Brigitte et Brigitte (Luc Moullet, 1966) 11
Brutality in Stone (Alexander Kluge & Peter Schamoni, 1961) 35
A Bullet for the General (Damiano Damiani, 1966) 17
Bullitt (Peter Yates, 1968) 42
Bunny Lake Is Missing (Otto Preminger, 1965) 15
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (George Roy Hill, 1969) 13
Bye Bye Braverman (Sidney Lumet, 1968) 44

Capricious Summer (Jiří Menzel, 1968) 48
The Carpetbaggers (Edward Dmytryk, 1964) 27
Cat in the Sack (Gilles Groulx, 1964) 23
The Charge of the Light Brigade (Tony Richardson, 1968) 50
Charlie Is My Darling (Peter Whitehead, 1966) 48
The Chase (Arthur Penn, 1966) 18
La Chinoise (Jean-Luc Godard, 1967) 3
The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach (Jean-Marie Straub, 1968) 9
El Cid (Anthony Mann, 1961) 8
Cinco vezes Favela (Miguel Borges et al., 1962) 36
Coach to Vienna (Karel Kachyňa, 1966) 20
The Coachman (Kang Dae-jin, 1961) 26
Comanche Station (Budd Boetticher, 1960) 34
The Commissar (Aleksandr Askoldov, 1967) 46
Confessions of an Opium Eater (Albert Zugsmith, 1962) 40
Cool Hand Luke (Stuart Rosenberg, 1967) 28
The Cool World (Shirley Clarke, 1964) 25
Cosmic Ray (Bruce Conner, 1962) 25
The Criminal (Joseph Losey, 1960) 31
Cronaca familiare (Valerio Zurlini, 1962) 11
Cruel Story of Youth (Nagisa Ōshima, 1960) 50
The Curse of the Werewolf (Terence Fisher, 1961) 30

The Damned (Luchino Visconti, 1969) 28
A Dandy in Aspic (Anthony Mann, 1968) 31
Danger: Diabolik (Mario Bava, 1968) 30
Dark of the Sun (Jack Cardiff, 1968) 32
The Defilers (Lee Frost, 1965) 39
Il demonio (Brunello Rondi, 1963) 47
Le Deuxieme Souffle (Jean-Pierre Melville, 1966) 47
The Devil Rides Out (Terence Fisher, 1968) 48
The Diabolical Dr. Z (Jess Franco, 1966) 35
Don't Look Back (D.A. Pennebaker, 1967) 20
Don't Make Waves (Alexander Mackendrick, 1967) 20
Dom Juan (Marcel Bluwal, 1965) 14
Donovan's Reef (John Ford, 1963) 23
El Dorado (Howard Hawks, 1967) 8
Dragon's Return (Eduard Grečner, 1968) 6

Early Works (Želimir Žilnik, 1969) 13
Easy Rider (Dennis Hopper, 1969) 16
The Elegant Life of Mr. Everyman (Kihachi Okamoto, 1963) 29
L'Enclos (Armand Gatti, 1961) 44
Es (Ulrich Schamoni, 1966) 45
Escape by Night (Roberto Rossellini, 1960) 9
The Exiles (Kent MacKenzie, 1961) 23
Experiment in Terror (Blake Edwards, 1962) 31

Face to Face (Sergio Sollima, 1967) 46
The Fall of the Roman Empire (Anthony Mann, 1964) 19
The Family Jewels (Jerry Lewis, 1965) 37
Fantastic Voyage (Richard Fleischer, 1966) 40
Faraon (Jerzy Kawalerowicz, 1966) 34
Fighting Elegy (Seijun Suzuki, 1966) 39
Flag in the Mist (Yōji Yamada, 1965) 10
For a Few Dollars More (Sergio Leone, 1965) 38
For Those Who Will Follow (Pierre Perrault, Michel Brault, et al., 1963) 29

The Game Is Over (Roger Vadim, 1966) 34
The Garden (Jan Švankmajer, 1968) 38
Gate of Flesh (Seijun Suzuki, 1964) 35
Der geteilte Himmel (Konrad Wolf, 1964) 50
Gewaltopia Trailer (Motoharu Jōnouchi, 1968) 31
The Girl on a Motorcycle (Jack Cardiff, 1968) 47
The Girl Who Knew Too Much (Mario Bava, 1963) 1
Goke, Body Snatcher from Hell (Hajime Satō, 1968) 46
Good Times, Wonderful Times (Lionel Rogosin, 1966) 36
Goto, Island of Love (Walerian Borowczyk, 1969) 46
Le Goût de la violence (Robert Hossein, 1961) 46
The Great Escape (John Sturges, 1963) 37
The Great Killing (Eiichi Kudō, 1964) 48
The Great Race (Blake Edwards, 1965) 34
Greetings (Brian De Palma, 1968) 44
The Guns (Ruy Guerra, 1964) 14

The Hand (Jiří Trnka, 1965) 46
Hanoi, 13 martes (Santiago Álvarez, 1968) 17
The Happy Ending (Richard Brooks, 1969) 22
Head (Bob Rafelson, 1968) 50
Hell in the Pacific (John Boorman, 1968) 50
Help! (Richard Lester, 1965) 21
Hercules and the Captive Women (Vittorio Cottafavi, 1961) 16
Hold Me While I'm Naked (George Kuchar, 1966) 49
Hombre (Martin Ritt, 1967) 14
Home from the Hill (Vincente Minnelli, 1960) 21
Homicidal (William Castle, 1961) 32
The Honeymoon Killers (Leonard Kastle, 1969) 47
The Housemaid (Kim Ki-young, 1960) 50
The Human Bullet (Kihachi Okamoto, 1968) 45
The Hunt (Carlos Saura, 1966) 49

I, the Executioner (Tai Katō, 1968) 38
The Iceman Cometh (Sidney Lumet, 1960) 14
Ikarie XB 1 (Jindřich Polák, 1963) 44
Il lavoro (Luchino Visconti, 1962) 25
In the Year of the Pig (Emile de Antonio, 1968) 32
Incompreso (Luigi Comencini, 1966) 22
Inherit the Wind (Stanley Kramer, 1960) 6
The Inheritance (Masaki Kobayashi, 1964) 45
Intentions of Murder (Shōhei Imamura, 1964) 13
Intervals (Peter Greenaway, 1969) 43
Intimate Lighting (Ivan Passer, 1964) 30
The Invincible Fist (Chang Cheh, 1969) 50
Isabel (Paul Almond, 1968) 32
It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World (Stanley Kramer, 1963) 44

John & Mary (Peter Yates, 1969) 31
The Joke (Jaromil Jireš, 1969) 9
Journey to Duilia's Breast (Hugo Christensen, 1964) 43

Karbid und Sauerampfer (Frank Beyer, 1963) 44
Keeper of Promises (Anselmo Duarte, 1962) 41
King of Kings (Joseph Kuo, 1969) 50
Kirmes (Wolfgang Staudte, 1960) 35
The Knack…and How to Get It (Richard Lester, 1965) 19
Krotkaya (Aleksandr Borisov, 1962) 33

The Land (Youssef Chahine, 1969) 41
The Last Trick (Jan Švankmajer, 1964) 19
The Laughing Man (Walter Heynowski & Gerhard Scheumann, 1966) 15
Lemonade Joe (Oldřich Lipský, 1964) 42
Lines: Horizontal (Norman McLaren & Evelyn Lambart, 1962) 44
The Lion in Winter (Anthony Harvey, 1968) 7
Little Dog for Roger (Malcolm Le Grice, 1967) 39
Lonely Are the Brave (David Miller, 1962) 50
Lord Love a Duck (George Axelrod, 1966) 48
Lover Come Back (Delbert Mann, 1961) 50
Lucía (Humberto Solás, 1968) 46

Macario (Roberto Gavaldón, 1960) 30
Madigan (Don Siegel, 1968) 47
The Magnificent Seven (John Sturges, 1960) 45
Major Dundee (Sam Peckinpah, 1965) 22
Mamma Roma (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1962) 46
The Man from the Diners' Club (Frank Tashlin, 1963) 33
Man Is Not a Bird (Dušan Makavejev, 1965) 1
The Man Who Had His Hair Cut Short (André Delvaux, 1966) 40
A Married Couple (Allan King, 1969) 15
Il mercenario (Sergio Corbucci, 1968) 18
Mickey One (Arthur Penn, 1965) 21
The Milky Way (Luis Buñuel, 1969) 46
The Miracle Worker (Arthur Penn, 1962) 6
Mississippi Mermaid (François Truffaut, 1968) 8
Mr. Freedom (William Klein, 1969) 33
Mother Joan of the Angels (Jerzy Kawalerowicz, 1961) 14
Mudhoney (Russ Meyer, 1965) 37
Mughal-E-Azam (K. Asif, 1960) 10
Muriel (Alain Resnais, 1963) 39
The Music Man (Morton DaCosta, 1962) 43
My Way Home (Miklós Jancsó, 1965) 24

The Naked Prey (Cornel Wilde, 1966) 5
Never on Sunday (Jules Dassin, 1960) 45
The Night of the Generals (Anatole Litvak, 1967) 38

Oedipus Rex (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1967) 43
The Off-Handed Jape…& How to Pull It Off (Robert Nelson & William Wiley, 1967) 34
The Office (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1966) 24
Oh (Stan Vanderbeek, 1968) 45
Oh! What a Lovely War (Richard Attenborough, 1969) 39
The One-Armed Swordsman (Chang Cheh, 1967) 25
One-Eyed Jacks (Marlon Brando, 1961) 38
Ordinary Fascism (Mikhail Romm, 1965) 10
The Organ (Štefan Uher, 1965) 31
The Organiser (Mario Monicelli, 1963) 43
Our Mother's House (Jack Clayton, 1967) 50

Passages from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake (Mary Ellen Bute, 1966) 38
A Patch of Blue (Guy Green, 1965) 16
Patriotism (Yukio Mishima, 1966) 25
The Pawnbroker (Sidney Lumet, 1964) 35
The Peach Thief (Vulo Radev, 1964) 35
Pitfall (Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1962) 19
Plácido (Luis García Berlanga, 1961) 34
Planet of the Apes (Franklin J. Schaffner, 1968) 11
Play Dirty (André De Toth, 1969) 40
Point of Order (Emile de Antonio, 1964) 26
Pollyanna (David Swift, 1960) 43
Portrait of Jason (Shirley Clarke, 1967) 1
The Pram (Bo Widerberg, 1963) 48
The President's Analyst (Theodore Flicker, 1967) 37
La Prisonnière (Henri-Georges Clouzot, 1968) 32
The Pumpkin Eater (Jack Clayton, 1964) 17
Punch and Judy (Jan Švankmajer, 1968) 38
Purple Noon (René Clément, 1960) 44

Quatermass and the Pit (Roy Baker, 1967) 45
A Quiet Week in the House (Jan Švankmajer, 1969) 2
The Quiller Memorandum (Michael Anderson, 1966) 17

La rabbia (Pier Paolo Pasolini, 1963) 4
The Rabbit Is Me (Kurt Maetzig, 1965) 44
Rabindranath Tagore (Satyajit Ray, 1961) 43
Rapture (John Guillermin, 1965) 14
The Reckoning (Jack Gold, 1969) 10
Reflections in a Golden Eye (John Huston, 1967) 15
Report (Bruce Conner, 1967) 12
Le Révélateur (Philippe Garrel, 1968) 18
The Rite (Ingmar Bergman, 1969) 47

The Sand Pebbles (Robert Wise, 1966) 48
Santa Claus Has Blue Eyes (Jean Eustache, 1969) 42
Scattered Clouds (Mikio Naruse, 1967) 35
Seance on a Wet Afternoon (Bryan Forbes, 1964) 12
Secret Ceremony (Joseph Losey, 1968) 23
Sedmoy sputnik (Grigori Aronov & Aleksey German, 1968) 47
Seduced and Abandoned (Pietro Germi, 1964) 32
Seduto alla sua destra (Valerio Zurlini, 1968) 36
79 primaveras (Santiago Álvarez, 1969) 5
Sex and the Single Girl (Richard Quine, 1964) 44
The Shop on Main Street (Ján Kadár & Elmar Klos, 1965) 31
Silence Has No Wings (Kazuo Kuroki, 1966) 34
Snow (Geoffrey Jones, 1963) 46
Soldier in the Rain (Ralph Nelson, 1963) 37
The Sorrow and the Pity (Marcel Ophüls, 1969) 11
Spider Baby (Jack Hill, 1968) 43
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (Martin Ritt, 1965) 14
De stem van het water (Bert Haanstra, 1966) 42
The Sterile Cuckoo (Alan Pakula, 1969) 48
Story of a Prostitute (Seijun Suzuki, 1965) 36
The Story of a Three-Day Pass (Melvin Van Peebles, 1968) 37
A Story Written with Water (Yoshishige Yoshida, 1965) 18
The Stranger Within a Woman (Mikio Naruse, 1966) 13
Subarnarekha (Ritwik Ghatak, 1965) 48
The Sun in a Net (Štefan Uher, 1962) 3
Sunday in New York (Peter Tewskbury, 1963) 50
The Sun's Burial (Nagisa Ōshima, 1960) 44
Sweet Bird of Youth (Richard Brooks, 1962) 48
The Swimmer (Frank Perry, 1968) 18
Sympathy for the Devil (Jean-Luc Godard, 1968) 45

Tall Story (Joshua Logan, 1960) 26
A tanú (Péter Bacsó, 1969) 30
The T.A.M.I. Show (Steve Binder, 1964) 13
Ten Dark Women (Kon Ichikawa, 1961) 9
Terra em Transe (Glauber Rocha, 1967) 43
These Are the Damned (Joseph Losey, 1963) 18
This Night I Will Possess Your Corpse (José Mojica Marins, 1967) 43
Thomas the Impostor (Georges Franju, 1965) 29
Three (Aleksandar Petrović, 1965) 20
The Time Machine (George Pal, 1960) 42
Time to Love (Metin Erksan, 1965) 40
To Die in Madrid (Frédéric Rossif, 1963) 41
The Tomb of Ligeia (Roger Corman, 1964) 25
Tonio Kröger (Rolf Thiele, 1964) 29
Les Tontons Flingueurs (Georges Lautner, 1963) 20
T,O,U,C,H,I,N,G (Paul Sharits, 1969) 32
Black Sabbath (Mario Bava, 1963) 46
A Treatise on Japanese Bawdy Songs (Nagisa Ōshima, 1967) 2
Tres tristes tigres (Raúl Ruiz, 1968) 1
The Trial of Joan of Arc (Robert Bresson, 1962) 26
Tristan und Isolde (Wieland Wagner, 1967) 2
Tutti a casa (Luigi Comencini, 1960) 37
23rd Psalm Branch (Stan Brakhage, 1964-69) 12
Two Weeks in Another Town (Vincente Minnelli, 1962) 37

Une femme douce (Robert Bresson, 1969) 22
Une femme mariée (Jean-Luc Godard, 1964) 24

The Valley of the Bees (František Vláčil, 1968) 15
Victim (Basil Dearden, 1961) 37
Village of the Damned (Wolf Rilla, 1960) 30
Visitors on the Icy Mountain (Zhao Xinshui, 1963) 32
Una vita difficile (Dino Risi, 1961) 31

Wait Until Dark (Terence Young, 1967) 4
A Wanderer's Notebook (Mikio Naruse, 1962) 37
The Warped Ones (Koreyoshi Kurahara, 1960) 25
West Side Story (Robert Wise & Jerome Robbins, 1961) 35
What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? (Robert Aldrich, 1962) 42
What's Up, Tiger Lily? (Woody Allen, 1966) 40
When I'm Dead and White (Živojin Pavlović, 1967) 9
When the Cat Comes (Vojtěch Jasný, 1963) 49
Who's That Knocking at My Door (Martin Scorsese, 1967) 48
Wild River (Elia Kazan, 1960) 36
The World of Henry Orient (George Roy Hill, 1964) 34
The World of Suzie Wong (Richard Quine, 1960) 50
Wrestling (Claude Jutra, Michel Brault, et al., 1961) 28

Yellow Submarine (George Dunning, 1968) 11
You're a Big Boy Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1966) 44

Zero Focus (Yoshitarō Nomura, 1961) 31
Zorba the Greek (Mihalis Kakogiannis, 1964) 45
Das zweite Gleis (Joachim Kunert, 1962) 48

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#589 Post by bamwc2 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:26 am

Thanks, Swo. I think that we all owe you a debt of gratitude for your hard work on this iteration of the list. Also, thanks to all of the contributors. There are some suggestions here that I've never seen before, and will definitely check out given this forum's superlative tastes.

I'll be back with a further analysis of this list and my contribution, but for now here were my top 10:

1. Battle of Algiers
2. Z
3. Winter Light
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
5. The Red and the White
6. Inherit the Wind
7. Kwaidan
8. El Cid
9. The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner
10. Ordinary Fascism

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#590 Post by swo17 » Mon May 27, 2013 11:30 am

Clue Answer Key

Most of these answers are no longer anywhere near accurate, but they give a sense of how the list evolves over time.

1. With eight lists in, only two of the films currently in the top 10 have not been released on Blu-ray somewhere in the world. Both are by the same director.
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Bergman's Persona and Winter Light
2. The top 3 are all from the same country, and two of them are from the same year.
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USA 1960
3. About midway through the list, there are two consecutive two-way ties between the films of a single director, one American, the other French. You will never guess either of them.
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Chabrol and Rossen
4. There is one rather prominent film that showed up in zero of the first ten lists submitted, but in all but one of the last six, presently placing it in our overall top 10.
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Play Time
5. The current #5 film only barely placed in the last project, somewhere in the bottom quarter of the top 100.
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Pierrot le fou
6. Two films in the prior top 20 are nowhere near the current top 100.
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Cleo from 5 to 7 and Jules and Jim
7. Nine films in the current top 50 didn't make the last list.
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Medea, Marketa Lazarová, The Young Girls of Rochefort, The Cremator, The Round-Up, Z, Bonnie and Clyde, Inferno of First Love, Marnie
8. In both the current list and the prior one, two directors have had two films each in the top 10. Only this time it's not the same two directors.
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Hitchcock and Antonioni
9. The clear favorite from the first 10 lists submitted is now sitting at #10.
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The Apartment
10. The seemingly unshakable #1 film for the past 12 lists has been dethroned!
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Psycho dethroned by 2001
11. Another director now has two films in the top 10, kicking out one of the directors I'd mentioned earlier.
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Kubrick
12. The current #70 position has 10 votes, and the current #95 has 7. There's another film that's appeared on 6 lists so far but isn't in the top 100.
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Cleo from 5 to 7, Il Vangelo secondo Matteo, and When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
13. In other big(?) news, the #1 country position, which stayed constant with one country through the first 33 lists submitted, has just gone to someone else.
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From the USA to France
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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol

#591 Post by YnEoS » Mon May 27, 2013 11:31 am

Thanks for all your work swo!

Really great list, the sheer number of masterpieces in the also-rans section shows what a brilliant decade this was for film. I didn't get to watch as many films as I'd planned, but did make some really great discoveries thanks to the discussion (the big ones being Yoshida and the last minute Ilyenko recommendation). I also wish I'd championed a few of my favorites more, though given the tight competition, I'm not sure how much it would've mattered.

Really glad the list didn't lose too many classics, but still managed to make room for new discoveries like Marketa Lazarová.

My only biggest personal disappointment is seeing The House Is Black on the casualty list. This was a really important film to one of my favorite teachers in film school, and I completely forgot to re-watch it and consider it for my list. But since it made the list the last round, I really have no excuse for forgetting.

Later today I'll post write ups for all my orphans, and perhaps my also-rans in the sad panda thread.

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#592 Post by Tommaso » Mon May 27, 2013 12:53 pm

Thanks a lot for your hard work, swo. The final list surprises me in so far as it doesn't seem to reflect the discussion in this thread very much. I had the impression nearly everyone loved Pasolini, for instance, so I'm surprised that he ended up so low. I'm equally surprised that 'standard' stuff like "2001" or "Once upon a time in the west" actually gained a higher position than in the last list, while Yoshida's "Eros + Massacre" placed lower than before, given that it received quite a bit of recommendation.

So, what happened? Many more lists than the last time from 'quiet participants'? Just curious.

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#593 Post by swo17 » Mon May 27, 2013 1:21 pm

I don't know how many people participated last time, but just based on how many points were given out both times, there were clearly at least a few more participants this round. (For instance, in the prior list, 90 points were enough to make the top 100. Now a film needed 123.) Just that alone is going to make the final list tend to look a little more "canonical." And plenty of people had votes for a ton of obscure stuff with something like Once Upon a Time in the West thrown in as well.

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol

#594 Post by TMDaines » Mon May 27, 2013 1:52 pm

Here's the list on IMDb

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#595 Post by Tommaso » Mon May 27, 2013 2:04 pm

Crazy, I find the list much better when seeing the covers attached on imdb.

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#596 Post by the preacher » Mon May 27, 2013 2:14 pm

Many thanks to all who participated. Good job, swo.

Tommaso, with more votes for Pasolini he would have finished ahead of Fellini! Germi, Rossellini, Cottafavi, Bava, Comencini, Visconti, Rosi and Olmi (the Italian guys on my ballot) have been less fortunate.

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#597 Post by YnEoS » Mon May 27, 2013 2:20 pm

Tommaso wrote:Thanks a lot for your hard work, swo. The final list surprises me in so far as it doesn't seem to reflect the discussion in this thread very much. I had the impression nearly everyone loved Pasolini, for instance, so I'm surprised that he ended up so low. I'm equally surprised that 'standard' stuff like "2001" or "Once upon a time in the west" actually gained a higher position than in the last list, while Yoshida's "Eros + Massacre" placed lower than before, given that it received quite a bit of recommendation.

So, what happened? Many more lists than the last time from 'quiet participants'? Just curious.
Pasolini actually ranked really high on the director list, so I would assume vote splitting and his lack of 1 single standout title that everyone could rally behind was the main reason he didn't do better.

Vláčil did a lot worse than Pasolini, but since all his votes seemed to funnel straight into Marketa Lazarová, it placed quite high.

Even though Yoshida had a big rally title, he seemed to suffer from a little bit of vote splitting as well, and had less overall support than either of the other two. Still, I think just making the top 100 in a list this competitive is a huge achievement.

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#598 Post by Tommaso » Mon May 27, 2013 2:39 pm

the preacher wrote: Tommaso, with more votes for Pasolini he would have finished ahead of Fellini!
Which he would have entirely deserved :wink:

Looking at the 'rise and fall' indicators, I must admit that I wasn't aware that "Medea" hadn't been at all on the last list and that it jumped up by 125 positions. Which I like, of course, but I simply thought he was regarded as such an influential or at least distinguished filmmaker that he would easily be as popular as Antonioni. Just my twisted perception, probably. Interesting that the only other of his films that made the list is "Porcile", which is a very demanding and disturbing film which I never thought would be particularly popular (and I also thought it was much less known than many of his other works).

YnEoS wrote: Even though Yoshida had a big rally title, he seemed to suffer from a little bit of vote splitting as well, and had less overall support than either of the other two. Still, I think just making the top 100 in a list this competitive is a huge achievement.
Of course. The main problem with Yoshida is that his works are so difficult to see in the West, outside of France. But then, that also goes for Naruse's "Yearning" which placed higher (and I apologize for not having found the time to see it). But after all it made the list, and not the easily available "When a woman ascends the stairs". So my theory about the lack of access to these films might be contradicted already.

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#599 Post by YnEoS » Mon May 27, 2013 2:53 pm

I can only speak from personal experience in this case, or I'd be really grasping at straws.

I think Naruse having some releases in the west has built up a lot of support over time, more people are seeking out his rarer films. I bet if Criterion had released 1 Yoshida film, even if it wasn't Eros + Massacre, people would start investigating and seeking out more of his other films, especially Eros + Massacre. I hadn't heard of Yoshida before this list topic, but I've been seeking out Naruse films ever since I got the MoC set years back.

Also, I personally found Yoshida's films hard to get into on the first viewing. I've only seen Yearning once, and that was enough reason for me to give it a very high spot on my list. With Yoshida I watched A Story Written in Water twice, and I got much more out of it on my second viewing, so I put it pretty high on my list, but no one else voted for it. I only had time to watch Eros + Massacre once, and I liked it quite a bit, but only enough to give it a lower-middle spot on my list.

Notice also that Eros + Massacre and Yearning both got 6 votes each, but Yearning got 3 top ten votes, compared to Eros + Massacre's 1, so Yearning seems to have gotten a lot of big support from the few people who saw it.

Anyways, that's my thin speculation on what might've gone on.

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Re: 1960s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol

#600 Post by swo17 » Mon May 27, 2013 3:10 pm

Tommaso wrote:Interesting that the only other of his films that made the list is "Porcile", which is a very demanding and disturbing film which I never thought would be particularly popular (and I also thought it was much less known than many of his other works).
Note that only three people voted for Porcile, but all three placed it very high on their lists. This and The Fire Within were the only two films that were able to make the top 100 with only three votes.

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