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Re: Criterion OOP

#326 Post by dwk » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:34 pm

The Confession Blu-ray is in-stock at Barnes and Noble's website and is scheduled to be back in-stock at Amazon on October 27th. It is still listed as OOP at Criterion's site, so I assume that this might be old stock. In any event, if you are looking for it, it is available again.

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#327 Post by Luke M » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:03 pm

Out of stock at B&N, placed an Amazon order but not holding my breath.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#328 Post by jedgeco » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:50 am

dwk wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:34 pm
The Confession Blu-ray is in-stock at Barnes and Noble's website and is scheduled to be back in-stock at Amazon on October 27th. It is still listed as OOP at Criterion's site, so I assume that this might be old stock. In any event, if you are looking for it, it is available again.
Mine just shipped from Amazon.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#329 Post by barryconvex » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:13 am

I just ordered copies of Bob Le Flambeur and Le Doulos on blu. Of course these were originally issued by Criterion and went out of print but how did they come to be licensed to Kino? Was Criterion not interested in reacquiring the rights or were they barred from doing so for some reason?

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Re: Criterion OOP

#330 Post by swo17 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:20 am

Kino presumably outbid them

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#331 Post by Noiradelic » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:51 am

Roughly 43 Criterion titles licensed from StudioCanal went OOP. Kino appears to have been aggressive in bidding for them, but Criterion is rumored to be rereleasing several -- Criterion and Kino have vastly different production rates.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#332 Post by FrauBlucher » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:40 am

It seems like Criterion went after very selective titles. Titles that were in their boxsets or titles that they already released on bluray. And few that weren’t. They are in no rush to reintroduce them, though.

Barryconvex, if you go to the Criterion and Studio Canal thread you’ll see updates to the OOP titles that are being reintroduced based on various rumors and confirmations

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Re: Criterion OOP

#333 Post by dwk » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:53 am

I think a big reason Kino got so many of the former Criterion titles is they got to StudioCanal first. And, since these title sat unreleased for a decade because Lionsgate sucks, StudioCanal may have wanted them released quickly. Something that obviously wouldn't happen with Criterion's 5 to 6 titles a month, but would with Kino's 5 to 6 titles a week.

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#334 Post by FrauBlucher » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:09 am

I’m not so sure about that. Criterion wouldn’t have ended up with their returning titles. I think SC went to CC and said Kino wants to license a bunch of our titles, and gave CC the opportunity to cherry pick. But it’s all speculation.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#335 Post by barryconvex » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:35 am

Thank you all for the responses. It seems strange that Criterion would let those two Melvilles go if they had any say in it. Not to mention Alphaville and Kind Hearts & Coronets. But since I'm not privy to CC sales figures I have no basis for thinking they should've reacquired those titles. If the numbers didn't work, they didn't work.

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#336 Post by Noiradelic » Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:16 am

They might've let themselves get outbid on those two Melvilles because they acquired Army of Shadows and Le cercle rouge. Might've gotten outbid on Alphaville but still got Contempt. I was surprised about Alphaville because I always was under the impression it was one of Godard's most popular films due to the sci-fi and hardboiled detective elements -- maybe I was mistaken. But if StudioCanal had ~40 titles up for licensing and Criterion was cherry-picking because of all the films out there available to license these days, they wouldn't have gotten them all.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#337 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:23 pm

Is The Royal Tenenbaums out of print? It's unavailable on Amazon, Criterion's site, and Barnes & Noble.

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#338 Post by domino harvey » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:26 pm

I imagine it’s a perennial best seller and the big sale just ended on two of those three sites. Amazon and BN by default don’t let you buy out of stock DVDs/Blus, so it being unavailable means nothing

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#339 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:30 pm

It's in "Backorder" status on DeepDiscount, sold out on BestBuy.com, out of stock on Walmart.com, and new copies (that aren't the UK printing) are not to be found on eBay. Really can't find it anywhere I think to look - don't need to buy it at this moment so if it's in stock on some obscure bookstore's website, I'm all set - just seems very much like the marker of something that's been between printings for longer than usual (best case scenario) or is out of print (worst case scenario, of course).

Also worth noting that the same scarcity does not apply to the other Disney/Touchstone Anderson films

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Re: Criterion OOP

#340 Post by dwk » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:11 pm

I recall Dr. Strangelove being out of stock because it was in between pressings for a long time (I want to say from late 2018 to after this summer's B&N sale) and I think this was down to fact that there is only one pressing plant for North American discs. I would assume that is the case with The Royal Tenenbaums, a re-pressing will happen when it happens.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#341 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:54 pm

I've been having a similar issue trying to locate a Blu-ray of Medium Cool. It's seemingly unavailable anywhere.

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#342 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:24 pm

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I've been having a similar issue trying to locate a Blu-ray of Medium Cool. It's seemingly unavailable anywhere.
It's on Criterion's site!

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Re: Criterion OOP

#343 Post by DeprongMori » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:23 pm

Not sure whether this has been mentioned earlier, but I didn’t see it listed in the first post: Carl Theodor Dreyer boxset (including Day of Wrath, Ordet, Gertrud, and Carl Th. Dreyer: My Metier) seems to be OOP now.

As evidenced by the BFI Carl Theodor Dreyer Collection, there have been 2K HD scans of all these films (and more) since at least 2015.

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Re: Criterion OOP

#344 Post by ianthemovie » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:56 pm

It's been OOP for several years now. I sold my copy for $90 on eBay back in 2018 :D

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