Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.5

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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

#2276 Post by TheGodfather » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:16 pm

I actually like them all, with the Verdoux and Blimp covers being the best.
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#2277 Post by triodelover » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:19 pm

Well, I'll be the contrarian. The Blimp cover is awful. Not only is it not evocative of the film, it looks like some generic British Invasion LP cover from the '60s. (Gerry and the Pacemakers, anyone?) At least the original cover and the ITV connect to the film and both give us the loveliness of Deborah Kerr. The Crit transfer will have to improve significantly over the ITV to make me want to take that thing home.

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#2278 Post by matrixschmatrix » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:21 pm

I really like the way the Blimp cover brings back in the style of the original political cartoons, but I'm not sure of how I feel about the sharp-lines-and-triangles composition. It looks a lot better than it did on the Chabrols, but that's not saying much.

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#2279 Post by Gregory » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:46 pm

It looks to me like the main inspiration was drawn from styles of painting and design found on some of the propaganda posters of the era, more than the Col. Blimp comics, but triodelover's observation genuinely has me curious. Can you post a Gerry and the Pacemaker's album cover that looks anything like this? I possibly haven't seen the British Invasion cover(s) you have in mind.
I find this one a major improvement over the original DVD cover. One of Criterion's strangest cover image choices to date was the EAH cover with the close-up of Blimp looking like a psychopathic boiled lobster.

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#2280 Post by triodelover » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:16 pm

Gregory wrote:It looks to me like the main inspiration was drawn from styles of painting and design found on some of the propaganda posters of the era, more than the Col. Blimp comics, but triodelover's observation genuinely has me curious. Can you post a Gerry and the Pacemaker's album cover that looks anything like this? I possibly haven't seen the British Invasion cover(s) you have in mind.
I find this one a major improvement over the original DVD cover. One of Criterion's strangest cover image choices to date was the EAH cover with the close-up of Blimp looking like a psychopathic boiled lobster.
Gerry and the Pacemakers was just a toss-off. I'm mainly referring to a spate of covers that were dominated by various "artistic" and/or psychedelic versions of the Union Jack.

But it also reminds me of Image. This poster is definitely evocative of La Grande Illusion. But the profiled and rather aggressive looking Candy I fear would leave a very different impression with someone unfamiliar with the film than the reality of Livesey's portrayal.

I will say having gone back and looked more closely at the cover that the triangles appear to represent an hour glass and the Union Jack motif the sands of time. I had to look at the cover several times to see that and, while clever, again for someone not familiar with the film could leave a mistaken impression, particularly taken in conjunction with the representation of Candy.
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#2281 Post by Gregory » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:30 pm

I see what you mean. I somehow saw the hourglass right away, and so the darkened profile of Candy (or "Blimp," as I sometimes still refer to him) appeared mournful rather than ominous or threatening, representing what the film deals with about the passage of time and all that. I really couldn't say how it might appear to someone who hasn't seen the film.
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#2282 Post by HistoryProf » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:46 pm

Timec wrote:Image
I really love this. The Blob looks great as usual too. Ministry of Fear and A Man Escaped are so so...not bad though.

Badlands is awful. complete and total shite. The Chaplin is the usual crap standard they seem to have for all his films. I don't understand it. After months of gorgeous work they really dropped the ball this month. Just terrible covers for two really great films.
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#2283 Post by The Narrator Returns » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:55 pm

HistoryProf wrote:Ministry of Fear and A Man Apart are so so...not bad though.
Well, color me surprised that Vin Diesel has finally been recognized in the Collection!

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#2284 Post by Jeff » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:01 pm

I like all the covers okay, with Badlands being the only one that doesn't feel quite right. I certainly get what they were going for, but it seems kind of thrown together. I'm really surprised that Malick signed off on it, as it is just about the least Malickian cover I could imagine. Fabulous slate of titles at any rate. It's the first time in a while that I'll pre-order the entire month's lineup.

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#2285 Post by Dansu Dansu Dansu » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:36 pm

I agree the Badlands cover has an interesting concept, but why the paint-by-numbers aesthetic? Then again, if it looked perfect, it would be celebrating the image rather than challenging it. Maybe it's the right amount of garishness for the concept, but is it too much to ask for an attractive cover which captures the spirit of the film?

The Monsieur Verdoux cover is so hideous that I now find it funny and am charmed by it. The covers for A Man Escaped, The Blob, and Blimp are excellent, my favorite being Escaped.

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#2286 Post by Brian C » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:42 pm

I'm not getting the Verdoux hate. In fact, I actually clicked over to this forum expecting to find for the first time some enthusiasm for a CC Chaplin cover. Instead, reaction is so unanimous and the reasons for hating it so obvious that literally no one has seen the need to explain what they find wrong with it.

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#2287 Post by matrixschmatrix » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:59 pm

I like it, but then I don't actually like the movie, so maybe I'm missing something.

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#2288 Post by domino harvey » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:59 pm

It looks like it was done in MS Paint

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#2289 Post by Saturnome » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:28 pm

It's vector graphics I think, something I don't really like because it looks cold most of the time, everything float and look flat. That's personal taste, but also the overall design isn't very attractive. Wasn't The Gold Rush better than that?

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#2290 Post by The Narrator Returns » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:30 pm

The Gold Rush was actually pretty good, and I'm something of a Modern Times apologist. But this and The Great Dictator do not look good. At all.

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#2291 Post by zedz » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:40 pm

For me, Verdoux (in addition to the irritating syntheticness of the delivery, which is completely at odds with the look I presume they're aiming for) looks like the work of somebody without much actual drawing skill trying to emulate a particular mid-century illustrative style and falling flat.

Same problem, if not quite as pronounced, with the Badlands cover. Commercial artists thinking that they can emulate 'trashy' forms like pulp covers or comic books in their sleep almost always leads to embarrassing results.

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#2292 Post by Brian C » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:58 pm

On the whole, I'm actually pretty indifferent to the Badlands cover. It seems a little bit insincere to me, perhaps depending too much on a kind of hipster irony (for lack of a better term) to make its point - the idea that Malick of all people made a piece of pulpy trash, and not just that, a particular type of pulpy trash that is charming and quaint today instead of daring and dangerous. It's simply a style that I don't think is evocative of the film at all.

But it's reasonably attractive taken on its own, and if I didn't know the movie I'd probably be interested based on the cover, so {shrug}

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#2293 Post by Cold Bishop » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:08 am

As noted a few pages back, the Badlands isn't suppose to be a pulp paperback but a roadside billboard... in which case, they should have made it "landscape"/put the image on its side.
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#2294 Post by HistoryProf » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:23 am

The Narrator Returns wrote:
HistoryProf wrote:Ministry of Fear and A Man Apart are so so...not bad though.
Well, color me surprised that Vin Diesel has finally been recognized in the Collection!
Holy brainfart. and I don't even know what that movie is...but it's somehow embedded in my brain. ick.

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#2295 Post by HistoryProf » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:29 am

Brian C wrote:I'm not getting the Verdoux hate. In fact, I actually clicked over to this forum expecting to find for the first time some enthusiasm for a CC Chaplin cover. Instead, reaction is so unanimous and the reasons for hating it so obvious that literally no one has seen the need to explain what they find wrong with it.
it looks flat and clip arty...like something a kid in high school would do for a design project. it's just lifeless. Gold Rush was okay...but this is now 3 out of 4 Chaplin covers that are just awful. it's bizarre.

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#2296 Post by pzadvance » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:54 am

mteller wrote:Image
Image

I suppose that is what they're evoking. What a strange choice for the cover though. Sort of like their "open book" motif for TTRL, it just doesn't feel representative of the film in any way. They didn't even fully commit and render the actors in the awkward style of the billboard in the film--though to be fair that would've made it only more puzzling and repulsive.

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#2297 Post by Shrew » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:07 am

I problem with Verdoux is 1) the overwhelming whiteness of all those faces against the grey background, and 2) all the Chaplins (but especially the bottom two with the arched eyebrows) look like Holly Golightly in drag.

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#2298 Post by Professor Wagstaff » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:07 am

matrixschmatrix wrote:I really like the way the Blimp cover brings back in the style of the original political cartoons, but I'm not sure of how I feel about the sharp-lines-and-triangles composition. It looks a lot better than it did on the Chabrols, but that's not saying much.
Matrix, I'd understand how you feel about the sharp triangles if they were as purposeless as they were on the Chabrols, but that hourglass effect with grains of sand making up the British flag is inspired and a beautiful representation of the movie's major subjects. Kudos on that design.

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#2299 Post by ianungstad » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:26 am

I think the concept for the Badlands cover is fine. The problem is that the artist is lousy. Sean Phillips didn't have any room on his schedule?

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#2300 Post by Lowry_Sam » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:14 am

Finally a cover I like. (It's been a while).

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