MoC Forthcoming, Wishlist and Random Speculation

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Re: MoC Forthcoming, Wishlist and Random Speculation

#3951 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:45 pm

Extremely happy that they've finally gotten to more Keaton.

Also good news re: Lumet's film adaptation of Long Day's Journey into Night. Obviously a tremendous play - a cornerstone in American theater - and this is a keeper, the best version put to film, one of Hepburn's great performances (really the entire cast is outstanding) and for my money one of Lumet's very best works.

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#3952 Post by Finch » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:03 pm

It's been years since I've seen Raining in the Mountains but I remember preferring it to A Touch of Zen at the time (which I've since come to appreciate a lot more) and to Legend of the Mountain (which I think is very good but not among his very best). I'd have to see it again but it was my favourite Hu alongside The Fate of Lee Khan (still to see The Valiant Ones).

Can anyone comment on Battling Butler?

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#3953 Post by What A Disgrace » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:56 pm

I'm really not minding that MoC is just releasing a lot of Olive Films titles, even if they're not going to bother putting any extras on bleedin' Operation Petticoat. A lot of really nice stuff got pretty shabby Olive Films treatment, which I was grateful for at the time because Blu-ray releases of older movies was still something of a novelty, but now I can look forward, hopefully, to Sands of the Kalahari, The Sun Shines Bright, and a few others getting somewhat more dignified treatment.

I hope the third volume of Keaton is a four film set, because we only have Three Ages, Go West, College and, frustratingly, Our Hospitality to go.

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#3954 Post by Drucker » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:10 pm

I picked up volumes two and three of the Cohen Keaton titles, so can happily say you're all welcome!

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#3955 Post by What A Disgrace » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:31 pm

I bought Kino's Scarlet Street recently, so I suspect we'll be getting it from MoC soon as well.

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#3956 Post by nitin » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:36 pm

Definitely in for the Keaton set

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#3957 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:01 am

is "Listen Up Philip" (combo DVD/Blu-Ray) definitely out of print ?

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#3958 Post by Grand Wazoo » Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:55 am

Found this on the Kung Fu Fandom forum:
Hey guys! :)

I'm currently working on Zu Warriors from the Magic Mountain for Eureka.

All is going very well so far and the new scan looks incredible! :)

I was wondering if anyone knows if a classic English dub exists for the HK theatrical cut of the film.

I was told that the Tai Seng VHS says it has a English dub... does anyone have any information on that?

If anyone can help me please post or PM me. I would really appreciate it.

I hope everyone here enjoys the holidays and let me just say we have a ton of cool HK films coming in 2020 from both Eureka & 88 Films to look forward to!!

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#3959 Post by swo17 » Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:32 am

Thank goodness they're still working on it!

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#3960 Post by colinr0380 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:43 am

And more from Neo Magazine: Made In Hong Kong the 1997 breakthrough film from director Fruit Chan (probably better known though for the horror short Dumplings in the Three...Extremes horror anthology that got expanded out into a full feature) is coming out in "Spring", and the first Mr Vampire film is also getting released at some point "TBC".

I quite like the first Mr Vampire film, but I'd be really ecstatic if Mr Vampire 2 could get some love as well. That is an amazing film which instead of being an outright horror film (though the first is pretty comic too) instead is a kind of a broadly comic post E.T. children's film in which a young boy starts up a relationship with a hopping vampire of his own age! It is both a bit cheesy and rather touching at the same time, and the only thing I can think that is in similar territory is the central relationship in Guillermo del Toro's Cronos that came out a couple of years later. And I like that it completely drops the period horror angle for its very 1980s setting! (Tying it in with all the other contemporary set martial arts and action films coming out at the same time in some ways). I'm afraid that I have not seen any of the many sequels after that, but maybe a boxset? (Hint, Hint!)

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#3961 Post by rapta » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:28 am

Interesting, did they mention Eureka in regards to the Fruit Chan film?

I was hoping we might see some MoC-level material from their Fortune Star dealings, particularly from John Woo, Johnnie To and Ringo Lam. Hope we get at least a few this year...

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#3962 Post by tenia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:31 am

Considering that most of these Classics releases have been much more loaded in terms of content than the utmost majority of their recent MoC releases, I honestly don't think it should matter if they're in the MoC series or the Classics one.

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#3963 Post by rapta » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:14 pm

Confirmed elsewhere that Johnnie To's Throw Down is also coming this year. That'll almost certainly be for MoC, since there's already some To in there.
tenia wrote:
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Considering that most of these Classics releases have been much more loaded in terms of content than the utmost majority of their recent MoC releases, I honestly don't think it should matter if they're in the MoC series or the Classics one.
I'm less interested in the branding and more interested in whether I could miss out on something (e.g. a booklet), should I fail to buy this within a particular window of time. I don't think the branding seems to matter how much effort they put into disc content - MoC's Cloak and Dagger has over 5 hours of radio plays on the disc; Eureka Classics' Operation Petticoat has no extras and no booklet; MoC's A Fistful of Dynamite has two presentations across two discs and plenty of extras; Eureka Classics' Cujo has endless interviews, and multiple versions of Police Story 1&2 in either edition of the set.

They tend to be assembling more content on releases they're likely to see a better return on - names like Jackie Chan, Stephen King, Fritz Lang and Sergio Leone will definitely reflect better sales. The main difference between MoC and Eureka Classics is the certainty there will be a booklet inside the box with the former, but there might not with the latter (and also there are only one or two cases where they failed to include any on-disc extras on an MoC release, whereas there are several barebones Eureka Classics titles).

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#3964 Post by tenia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:07 pm

rapta wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:14 pm
and also there are only one or two cases where they failed to include any on-disc extras on an MoC release, whereas there are several barebones Eureka Classics titles.
Actually, many MoC titles (including most of the recent Asian titles), while not bare-bones as-such, are extremely light in on-disc content, with often just 1 video extra and an audio commentary : Long Day’s Journey into Night, Raining in the Mountain, The Fate Of Lee Khan, The Woman in the Window, One, Two, Three, Irma la Douce, Shoah: The Four Sisters, Human Desire, Early Hou Hsiao-hsien, Legend of the Mountain, The Barefoot Contessa, The Mourning Forest, Der müde Tod, Harmonium, Daughter of the Nile, Two Rode Together, Creepy, Sweet Bean, Journey to the Shore, Dragon Inn.

It's however quite clear the "HK" Eureka Classics are aside in terms of extra features content anyway. The majority of them are beating pretty much any Eureka or MoC releases in terms of video content AND they also come with booklets. That's why, for these specific movies, I'm not sure it matters if they're in the Classics or the MoC line-ups.

But for sure, if booklets are something of definitive importance for you, the MoC releases have never been re-released without booklets indeed.

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#3965 Post by colinr0380 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:52 pm

rapta wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:28 am
Interesting, did they mention Eureka in regards to the Fruit Chan film?
Yes, its part of a rundown of upcoming releases in 2020, so lots of films with a note saying the label and when released (so for example they say "Arrow Films Release date: 24th Feb" for the One Missed Call Trilogy, or "Sony Pictures Home Entertainment Release Date 27th Jan" for the UK Criterion release of Sansho The Bailiff). For Mr Vampire, Zu Warriors, Throw Down, Raining In The Mountain and Made In Hong Kong they just say Eureka, so they make no distinction regarding the Masters of Cinema label or Eureka in general. Made In Hong Kong is labelled "Eureka Release Date: Spring".
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In the rest of the upcoming UK release roundup article they also note that Artificial Eye is releasing WANG Xiaoshuai's film So Long My Son on 10th February (DVD only), Anime Limited has Hayao Miyazaki documentary Never-Ending Man "TBC" in February, and Takashi Miike's First Love is coming from 'Signature Entertainment' on 14th February (along with Bernard Roses's Samurai Marathon also from Signature, which is apparently 'released exclusively on digital platforms' And yes that is another collaboration with Philip Glass doing the score after Candyman! I can only hope this gets released on disc too at some point as it looks excellent from the trailer. Rose's regular actor Danny Huston is in there too as Commodore Perry!)

And since we are on the subject of Asian films, this is not mentioned in Neo Magazine but I recently got an e-mail from the Unearthed Films newsletter. It does not seem as if we have a thread for this US label, which has been operating under the radar for a few decades now. It is probably best not to approach any of the films that they put out casually as they put out some of the hardest of the hardcore gore films ever made (things like the Guinea Pig films and Black Sun: The Nanking Massacre), and this release is no different, but they have just announced that they will be releasing one of the most notorious of the Category III Hong Kong films, The Untold Story "soon", though nothing more precise than that. The film is a kind of serial killer crime thriller which became notorious with its scenes of (mostly accidental: always make sure you know where the meat in your favourite restaurant is coming from!) cannibalism and a big family massacre scene near to the end. This was co-directed and produced by Danny Lee, probably best known in the West for his co-starring roles around the same time with Chow Yun-Fat in both The Killer and in City on Fire (and if you think The Untold Story was an aberration in his career, this came after Danny Lee himself directed and starred in Dr Lamb, about a similar kind of figure. I can only assume that these films were Hong Kong cinema's reaction to The Silence of the Lambs!)
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#3966 Post by tenia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:59 pm

I've always been fascinated at these movies (The Untold Story, Ebola Syndrome, ...) and how Anthony Wong got many HK awards thanks to them.
I mean : I'd never have thought these movies would get nominations to begin with.

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#3967 Post by tenia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:31 am

Thanks Amazon (as usual) :
Zu (LE) (Classics) / April 20th
Kwaidan (LE) (MoC) / April 27th

2 more to be announced tomorrow (or before if Amazon leaks them again).

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#3968 Post by swo17 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:42 am

I see Rio Grande as well

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#3969 Post by tenia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:47 am

I suspect we'll know the last one pretty soon.
I hope there is a new restoration of Rio Grande though.

EDIT : I thought there were 4 titles but actually, it's only 3 so here we are.

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#3970 Post by rapta » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:02 pm

Very happy with Kwaidan, which I've been occasionally asking about for years and they did say a couple of times that's the one Japanese title they'd hope to one day upgrade. I love Kobayashi so that's an immediate pre-order from me!

Also pretty happy with Rio Grande, after asking for Republic titles for a while as well. I'd have hoped they could've got Nick Ray's Johnny Guitar by now but for some reason they didn't get it initially (obviously they'll keep trying, unless Indicator or Arrow beat them to it). Anyway, good to see some more Ford finally show up on UK Blu-ray, and since this is a Republic title I wonder if they'll also go for The Sun Shines Bright at some point.

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#3971 Post by TMDaines » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:22 am

I got confused between Rio Grande and Rio Bravo. I still need to buy the Westerns Collection it seems.

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#3972 Post by Apperson » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:10 am

tenia wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:47 am
I hope there is a new restoration of Rio Grande though.
Here's what Eureka's site says about the presentation:
1080p presentation on Blu-ray, from a new transfer completed by Paramount’s preservation department in 2019

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#3973 Post by swo17 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:03 pm

I'm just gonna say it--Zu Warriors is by far the best addition this month

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#3974 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:57 pm

swo17 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:03 pm
I'm just gonna say it--Zu Warriors is by far the best addition this month
Surprised to see it's not in the MoC line, considering the importance of Tsui Hark in Hong Kong/Chinese cinema history, even if the quality of his output has lessened. I think at some point Tsui was a master of cinema!

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#3975 Post by swo17 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:02 pm

I don't really care that much considering how stacked the release is, though some people might be more likely to seek out films under the MoC banner than otherwise

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