BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

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Re: Forthcoming - Fuller at Fox: Five Films 1951-1957

#26 Post by Ovader » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:39 pm

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Does that mean Adrian Martin commentaries?
A.M. said "All I can say is: it could mean that! Probably just on one film ..." and he does not mean Fixed Bayonets!
I was just informed by the man himself with this statement "Official news: I have been dropped from doing a slated new audio commentary on either HOUSE OF BAMBOO or FORTY GUNS for this set. Boooo !!"

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#27 Post by dda1996a » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:43 pm

This set was already too good to be true...

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#28 Post by swo17 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:28 pm

I thought the consensus from the beginning was that it was too compromised to be anything but real

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

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#30 Post by Finch » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:25 pm


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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#31 Post by kcota17 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:30 pm

I’ve been on a Fuller binge lately. I own the Criterion Forty Guns and I really want to own PickUp on South Street but I’m torn between three options:

- Wait for whenever Criterion releases it
- Just go for the individual MoC release
- Sell my Criterion and get this set.

But having only seen those two films in it set, is it worth it for the boxset for the other three films I haven’t seen?

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#32 Post by rapta » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:07 pm

I'd say it's worth getting the box set, personally speaking. ICYDK, the box set version of Forty Guns has the same newer transfer as the Criterion and also includes the documentary A Fuller Life, whereas the standalone edition is an older master and doesn't include that documentary (both are a box set exclusive). Also once these MoC box sets go OOP, they tend to shoot up in price and they're often not reissued. It's a lovely looking set too, with a decent booklet. Much like the Indicator set this is a no-brainer for anyone who's a fan of the director!

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#33 Post by Rayon Vert » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:28 pm

Just speaking for the films themselves, Hell & High Water isn't worth it but the other two are.

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#34 Post by DeprongMori » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:42 pm

Rayon Vert wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:28 pm
Just speaking for the films themselves, Hell & High Water isn't worth it but the other two are.
On the plus side, it means the Fuller completist doesn’t need to shell out for a standalone of Hell and High Water, which I agree is not a very good film.

I was in much the same boat, having all the films already except for Hell and High Water and the remastered version of Forty Guns with A Fuller Life. I’m glad I did it as it’s a great set.

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#35 Post by Glowingwabbit » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:10 pm

The Typewriter, the Rifle & the Movie Camera is really the doc you want. A Fuller Life is just people reading his autobiography out loud, which you can do yourself.

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#36 Post by DeprongMori » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:05 pm

Glowingwabbit wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:10 pm
The Typewriter, the Rifle & the Movie Camera is really the doc you want. A Fuller Life is just people reading his autobiography out loud, which you can do yourself.
I’ve been trying to catch the rest of Fuller’s work before I dive in to the unredacted interviews for that doc on the Indicator Samuel Fuller at Columbia set. I only have a handful left to track down.

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#37 Post by kcota17 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:20 pm

How are Fixed Bayonets and House of Bamboo?

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#38 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:32 pm

DeprongMori wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:05 pm
I’ve been trying to catch the rest of Fuller’s work before I dive in to the unredacted interviews for that doc on the Indicator Samuel Fuller at Columbia set. I only have a handful left to track down.
Those interviews spliced together are arguably the greatest extra, ever (though I could probably watch seven hours of any passionate and articulate grey thinker talk and declare it genius). I don't think you need to see everything of the man before watching them, if anything you'll want to see everything of his again afterwards, just to see how the pieces of his attitude that were perhaps less clear in those films become reflective in hindsight.

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Re: BD 111, 116, 127, 216-217 Fuller at Fox: Five Films, 1951-1957

#39 Post by domino harvey » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:10 pm

kcota17 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:20 pm
How are Fixed Bayonets and House of Bamboo?
Fixed Bayonets! is the best film in the set. Basically what Rayon Vert said: they’re all good except Hell and High Water and that’s not even terrible

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#40 Post by ChunkyLover » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:32 pm

I'm still disappointed that Eureka chose to go with a mono down-mix (not even a dedicated/vintage mix but sounds like a down-mix from the 5.1 TT track) for "House of Bamboo" instead of using either the 4.0 from the Fox DVD and/or the 5.1 upmix from the Twilight Time Blu (ironic as the music and effects track is in stereo). At least "Hell and High Water" is in stereo despite being listed as "mono" (though it would of been nice for the 'unfolded' 4.0 or the TT 5.1).

Ovader wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:39 pm
Ovader wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:16 pm
swo17 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:06 pm
Does that mean Adrian Martin commentaries?
A.M. said "All I can say is: it could mean that! Probably just on one film ..." and he does not mean Fixed Bayonets!
I was just informed by the man himself with this statement "Official news: I have been dropped from doing a slated new audio commentary on either HOUSE OF BAMBOO or FORTY GUNS for this set. Boooo !!"
A shame because the Scott Harrison commentary on "Hell and High Water" is not good (most of the time it sounds like he doesn't want to be there and at one point goes on a rant about modern special effects while barely mentioning HaHW).

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