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Re: Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

#1626 Post by yoloswegmaster » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:56 am

SC to release 'Nights of Cabiria' and 'The White Sheik' in Spring 2020.

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#1627 Post by Matt » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:18 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:56 am
SC to release 'Nights of Cabiria' and 'The White Sheik' in Spring 2020.
in the UK and Germany. The 4K resto of Cabiria appears to be already available on blu in Spain and Japan.

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#1628 Post by movielocke » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:40 pm

yoloswegmaster wrote:SC to release 'Nights of Cabiria' and 'The White Sheik' in Spring 2020.
Perhaps those will be the first upgrades criterion releases this year as well, ala Virgin spring in the summer of the Bergman year.

I’d rather get I vitteloni and la strada though, first.

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#1629 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:58 pm

The White Sheik, Nights of Cabiria and I Vitteloni are three of Fellini's best films, IMHO, and I'd welcome any of them as the first BD upgrades of the year. (Can't say I'm a fan of La Strada, but it's probably more popular than any of those three so I'm sure an upgrade will come relatively soon.)

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#1630 Post by david hare » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:33 pm

Matt wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:18 pm
yoloswegmaster wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:56 am
SC to release 'Nights of Cabiria' and 'The White Sheik' in Spring 2020.
in the UK and Germany. The 4K resto of Cabiria appears to be already available on blu in Spain and Japan.
Sorry to report this, but I’ve watched the Japanese disc from Kadokawa.

The “restoration” is totally dreadful, the DVNR was wound up the dial and there’s not a hint of grain. And grading seems to have been pitched without true back. The Dynamic range makes the 4K look like a Multi gen exhibition print that’s been taken from an overworked neg. I have no idea who did this, it cant have been Ritrovato. And Canal should have nuked it. Maybe the4k is ok but I doubt it.

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#1631 Post by tenia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:45 am

I've seen a few caps of the Cabiria Japanese disc and yeah, it's Wax-o-vision. The grain seem to have been scrubbed into oblivion. The grading also seem problematic, with clipped highlights and the whole thing just seem completely over-exposed.
It's surprising, because Kadokawa also released Bresson's Le journal d'un curé de campagne in its new 4K resto and it seemed to be (again, on caps) tremendous. So I can't say if Cabiria's restoration is just FUBARed or if Kadokawa decided to toy with it pointlessly and destructively.

EDIT : found it, from the Film Forum 2020 program :
4K RESTORATION BY TF1 STUDIO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH STUDIOCANAL AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CNC. RESTORED AT L’IMMAGINE RITROVATA LABORATORY, BOLOGNA
And here :
The 4K restoration and digitisation of NIGHTS OF CABIRIA has been made from new fine grains by TF1 STUDIO in partnership with STUDIOCANAL and with the support of the CNC

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#1632 Post by hearthesilence » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:39 pm

Ugh. I guess I WON'T be selling my Criterion DVD after all.

FWIW, in late 2017 when MoMI held a program honoring Rialto, the one 35mm print shown was for Nights of Cabiria - it looked great, but it was also pretty worn and scratched around the reel changes. Would be a great shame if no good print of this circulates anymore in the U.S.

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#1633 Post by Drucker » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:40 pm

I feel like the Fellini restorations we've seen are such a mixed bag, I shudder to think about the quality of the boxset. City of Women and Roma have the weird color timing. La Strada doesn't look amazing. Nights of Cabiria could very well be botched.

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#1634 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:50 pm

Do you mean the 2K restoration of La Strada from 2017 or the new 4K one?

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#1635 Post by Drucker » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:58 pm

Probably the former, just commenting that the Studio Canal UK disc never seemed like reason enough to upgrade the Criterion DVD.

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#1636 Post by L.A. » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:27 pm

The Elephant Man Collector’s Edition in April.

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#1637 Post by M Sanderson » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:48 pm

Have they still got the U.K. rights to Masque of the Red Death? Rumours that it’s been remastered from 4k, so when are we going to see this?

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Re: Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

#1638 Post by david hare » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:08 pm

tenia wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:45 am
I've seen a few caps of the Cabiria Japanese disc and yeah, it's Wax-o-vision. The grain seem to have been scrubbed into oblivion. The grading also seem problematic, with clipped highlights and the whole thing just seem completely over-exposed.
It's surprising, because Kadokawa also released Bresson's Le journal d'un curé de campagne in its new 4K resto and it seemed to be (again, on caps) tremendous. So I can't say if Cabiria's restoration is just FUBARed or if Kadokawa decided to toy with it pointlessly and destructively.

EDIT : found it, from the Film Forum 2020 program :
4K RESTORATION BY TF1 STUDIO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH STUDIOCANAL AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CNC. RESTORED AT L’IMMAGINE RITROVATA LABORATORY, BOLOGNA
And here :
The 4K restoration and digitisation of NIGHTS OF CABIRIA has been made from new fine grains by TF1 STUDIO in partnership with STUDIOCANAL and with the support of the CNC
The Kadokawa Jounal d’un Curé is a beauty. Everything it needed to be. I honestly think the issues with Cabiria
go back to the Source material. It really looks like a third rate dupe, washed out 35mm.

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#1639 Post by tenia » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:55 am

If Cabiria has been done from a new fine grain master, there is no reason for it to look like this. And honestly, it just looks digitally filtered. Even dupes have a typically filmic grain.

Yes, I've seen some caps of Journal d'un curé, and it looks marvelous. It should be out in France through Studio Canal in March.

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#1640 Post by david hare » Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:53 pm

I understand the DCP of Curé will debut in Australia in May. That’s supposed to be a secret.

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#1641 Post by Drucker » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:43 am

Saw the 4k restoration trailer of Caibiria yesterday at Film Forum and can pretty confidently say that it doesn't seem to come from a new restoration, FWIW. It had scratches on it and pulsing brightness at various points.

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#1642 Post by M Sanderson » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:53 am

Villain (1971) with Richard Burton coming out on March 20; Vintage Classics.

No details regarding restoration work/fresh scans etc.

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#1643 Post by M Sanderson » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:02 pm

Villain has now been confirmed as a new restoration.

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Re: Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

#1644 Post by rapta » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:30 pm

If StudioCanal are releasing The Nights of Cabiria, why have BFI Video submitted it to the BBFC? Very odd..

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Re: Studio Canal/Kinowelt/Optimum

#1645 Post by KJones77 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:56 pm

rapta wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:30 pm
If StudioCanal are releasing The Nights of Cabiria, why have BFI Video submitted it to the BBFC? Very odd..
Could BFI be doing a Fellini box-set of their own with SC licensing out titles like Nights of Cabiria as box-set exclusives?

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#1646 Post by tenia » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:49 am

The BFI submitted the movie as "film", in opposition to submitting it for "video". The BFI has UK theatrical rights and will show theatrically the movies as part of their Fellini 100th anniversary event this year, while SC will be the ones releasing those on video. The BFI also submitted Juliet of the Spirits, I Vitelloni and La Dolce Vita, for instance.
Nothing new here, since this was announced on Oct 30th 2019.

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