1035 Come and See
- OldBobbyPeru
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Re: 1035 Come and See
For what it's worth, there's a Russian title card at the beginning that is translated as "Image and sound restoration by Mosfilm Cinema Concern." At the end, there are more restoration credits, all in Russian and untranslated. No mention of Dolby or stereo. The French version is the same.
- The Fanciful Norwegian
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The 5.1 mix was just one of the terrible echoey upmixes that Ruscico did for a lot of their reissued titles at the time. There were even points when the English dub could be heard faintly in the background of the Russian track because they somehow mixed up one of the surround channels.EddieLarkin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:18 amIt does appear that many of the previous DVD releases featured 5.1 tracks, and the IMDb does list the film as having a Stereo track, but that's barely evidence of anything.
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I just watched it for the first time ever but I have a question about the casting regarding a couple of characters:
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Was it the same actress playing Glasha and the woman near the end who is taken, gangraped and appears in front of Flyora with the whistle in her mouth?
- TheKieslowskiHaze
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Yes.black&huge wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:57 amI just watched it for the first time ever but I have a question about the casting regarding a couple of characters:
SpoilerShowWas it the same actress playing Glasha and the woman near the end who is taken, gangraped and appears in front of Flyora with the whistle in her mouth?
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I saw different answers after googling it, but I always thought it WAS Glasha who had the whistle in her mouth, NOT the woman who was taken earlier.
- TMDaines
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Game mode does the same on a lot of TVs for years.
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It doesnt though, Game Mode usually introduces other presets that are not helpful for movie viewing.
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- Finch
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Love that typo. To be fair, that site is a con alright.
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Why can't I access this forum?
- tenia
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Having checked that too, I can confirm these findings. The center channel sounds like it has the exact same content than the Left and Right channels, but louder than them. So basically, it's a 1.0 track with a faint L&R spread, plus lower frequencies being supported by the .1 channel. There are no panning effects on the L&R channels, but also seemingly no specific info that aren't on the center channel.OldBobbyPeru wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:54 pmI noticed that the French track didn't seem to have any big differences in the left and right channels to indicate a stereo program. There's left, right, center and LFE, but the stereo playback meters always move completely in tandem, no variance whatsoever like you would see in a normal stereo source. Indeed, I muted the left and right channels, and there wasn't much difference.
So, it appears to me that the French disc did use a mono track that they extrapolated to a 3.1 mix. The French soundtrack shows no evidence of being anything but a mono track spread across the LCR soundstage.
I've checked too the movie and restoration's on-disc credits, and there is no mention about Dolby Stereo nor any detail about the sound restoration.
Thanks for these. This made me wonder how the 5.1 remix sounded like and thought it might be that bad. Glad to know for sure now and not regret its absence.The Fanciful Norwegian wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:49 pmThe 5.1 mix was just one of the terrible echoey upmixes that Ruscico did for a lot of their reissued titles at the time. There were even points when the English dub could be heard faintly in the background of the Russian track because they somehow mixed up one of the surround channels.
- knives
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I was thinking today, what is the explanation for Klimov’s retirement following this? His last three features are some of the best ever so it’s been nagging me.
- diamonds
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His explanation in 2000:
He was frustrated in his attempts to make a film based on The Master And Margarita, Mikhail Bulgakov's fantastical satire of life in Stalinist Russia, despite financial propositions by American producers. He also had a project for a film on Stalin, and for an adaptation of Dostoevsky's The Devils. But three years ago, at the age of 67, he declared, "I've lost interest in making films. Everything that was possible I felt I had already done. I think of lines written by Andrei Platonov to his wife, 'Toward the impossible our souls fly.'"
- knives
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So, essentially, he wanted to make movies but investors weren’t? Sounds similar to Erice?
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I wonder how directors like him and Erice are able to financially support themselves. I imagine their films likely don’t bring in huge royalty checks. Was Klimov teaching somewhere?
- MichaelB
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He was the First Secretary of the Filmmakers' Union for several years, the kind of job that may well have come with a pension attached.
(Although, given the USSR's collapse shortly afterwards, that's not at all certain!)
(Although, given the USSR's collapse shortly afterwards, that's not at all certain!)